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The topic of the “Davidic Servant” continues to prove an annoyance for the upper crust of the Church

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 12:39 am
by High Spy
https://open.substack.com/pub/thatzionmaygoforth/p/the-topic-that-just-wont-go-away wrote:
The topic of the “Davidic Servant” continues to prove an annoyance for the upper crust of the Church. And this is perhaps why the LDS Apologist/Think Tank “FAIR” churned out a short piece refuting the idea over the weekend

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… Given the vast empire religion wields over the minds of its adherents, such a deprecation serves as an implicit form of censorship calculated to make external scholarship to that of the consensus appear fringe. By doing so, this apologist effectively turns the minds of most would-be investigator away from researching the topic for himself …

https://twitter.com/ChinoBlanco/status/ ... 1160297930

https://www.thatzionmaygoforth.com/p/th ... -of-mormon
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Re: The topic of the “Davidic Servant” continues to prove an annoyance for the upper crust of the Church

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 12:56 pm
by juliet
What are the reasons he gives for it being, not just wrong, but completely wrong, and not all claims to believe in it are wrong, but just most?

If he says it like that, what am I supposed to take away from this? Nothing concrete.

Re: The topic of the “Davidic Servant” continues to prove an annoyance for the upper crust of the Church

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:11 pm
by juliet
https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/hom ... ent-events

The link wasn't working so I found this one.

Wow, this is a piece of work. Clearly the early prophets referred to the Davidic Servant as a man. If they were referring to Jesus Christ, they would have used a name that Jesus Christ uses. David is clearly a different name than Jesus, as is Peter, James and John.

It's possible that Joseph Smith Jr. considered himself to be the Davidic Servant. Was he not martyred?

The way the article is written appears very biased, not in the search for truth, but the fear behind the article is palpable. They don't want anyone to believe anything that isn't official church doctrine, even though it's official church doctrine to seek the truth, that those who seek the truth will have the mysteries of God revealed to them, and that we believe there are things that are yet to be revealed. If these things that are yet to be revealed do not come from the church then where will they come from? The church has to back walk on a lot of official doctrine to discount the world's need for continued revelation, and the fact that the every day person doesn't know the mysteries of God without seeking them out. If the church discourages seeking the mysteries of God because it is not official church doctrine, then that is not official church doctrine. How much official church doctrine does the church have to back track on to make these kinds of claims! Quite a lot! And the hypocrisy is becoming apparent.

Jesus taught that He has more than one fold. The 12 tribes of Israel all have important missions. The mission of the tribe of Ephraim is to teach the gospel. It is not to become some sort of world dominant power. God has plans for all of His children and He will organize them according to the needs of humanity.

Re: The topic of the “Davidic Servant” continues to prove an annoyance for the upper crust of the Church

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2024 5:52 am
by BeNotDeceived
juliet wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 12:56 pm What are the reasons he gives for it being, not just wrong, but completely wrong, and not all claims to believe in it are wrong, but just most?

If he says it like that, what am I supposed to take away from this? Nothing concrete.
Re: Is the Davidic Servant preparing to unveil himself?
https://ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.p ... 6#p1495126
BeNotDeceived wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:21 pm
Taki wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:52 am
Apophenia at work.

The same is true with all those 57's, and with the Stellarium claim.
A short post



https://www.ldsfreedomforum.com/search. ... =mazzaroth

To show video at link, and ask was the Star of Bethlehem legit?


Many fall prey to their faulty understanding of Gematria too. :(

How do you explain continental drip. :?:

— discernment using true principles is the key to righteous understanding.

Re: The topic of the “Davidic Servant” continues to prove an annoyance for the upper crust of the Church

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2024 6:32 am
by High Spy
Re: There’s no way the Church is not true
https://ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.p ... 5#p1499625
Being There wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 3:35 am
If you think the Lord still leads the church,
show me any indication of it - any indication at all !
The church facilitated at least one amazing Patriarchal Blessing.

Re: The topic of the “Davidic Servant” continues to prove an annoyance for the upper crust of the Church

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2024 10:36 pm
by Finrock
High Spy wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 6:32 am Re: There’s no way the Church is not true
https://ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.p ... 5#p1499625
Being There wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 3:35 am
If you think the Lord still leads the church,
show me any indication of it - any indication at all !
The church facilitated at least one amazing Patriarchal Blessing.
At least two.