Telavian wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2023 10:00 pm
LDS bot - an interesting tool.
While looking around the BH Roberts website I noticed that they have an LDS focused chat bot.
I used it for a few minutes, and it responded surprisingly well. Of course, it was pro LDS, however it certainly wasn't 100% rosy about things.
If you are interested, I would encourage you to try it out.
https://ldsbot.com/
When you say "fab15" and "fab4", are you referring to any specific individuals or groups within the context of the Latter-day Saints faith or are these references to something else? Could you please provide a little more context so I can give you a more accurate response? Thanks! 
If you're interested in miracles and timing patterns related to Christ, it's always fascinating to explore those topics within the scriptures and teachings of Latter-day Saints leaders.https://craigkeener.com/one-strike-youre-out-on-the-gift-of-prophecy-deuteronomy-1822/ wrote:
One-strike-you’re-out on the gift of prophecy?—Deuteronomy 18:22
ByCraig Keener
March 1, 2021
Deut. 18:22 If a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD but the thing does not take place or prove true, it is a word that the LORD has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; do not be frightened by it. (NRSV)
In the New Testament, we recognize that even in small house churches, like those in Corinth, prophecies had to be evaluated each week (1 Cor 14:29). That suggests that those prophecies remained fallible and not all of them passed muster in all their details.
But how does that square with Old Testament teaching about stoning a prophet if their word doesn’t come to pass? Some argue for a radical difference between Old and New Testament prophecy. But we should remember that not all prophecies in OT times, just like not all prophecies in NT times, automatically qualified for inclusion in the Bible, even if they were by true prophets. We don’t hear the prophecies of the true prophets whom Jezebel killed, or of the hundred whom Obadiah hid in a cave (1 Kgs 18:4).
Prophecy in Corinth, where the believers were just two or three years old in the Lord, had to get vetted through a process of peer review. In the OT, senior prophets often mentored junior prophets, probably supervising their prophesying (1 Sam 19:20; 2 Kgs 2:3-7; 4:38). That is, there was also a process of review as younger prophets were maturing. (It was considered noteworthy when a prophet arose like Samuel, none of whose words failed—1 Sam 3:19; or Moses, who talked with God face to face—Num 12:6-8.)
Words coming to pass was one measure, but as we shall see, it was not the decisive criterion for prophecy. Prophets were false even if their words came to pass, if they sought to lead God’s people to worship other gods (Deut 13:1-5); they spoke “rebellion” against the Lord (13:5). The passage about executing a prophet who speaks something that does not come to pass (18:20-22), contrasts in context with the true prophet like Moses (18:15-19). The prophet to which it refers is a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods or speaks presumptuously what God has not said (18:20, 22).
But does this refer to stoning a prophet who thought God was speaking and misunderstood him or made a mistake on some point? The Hebrew word translated “presumptuously” means “rebelliously.” As in the statement above, it refers to someone seeking to lead us away from the Lord. If it actually referred to anyone who makes a mistake in speaking for the Lord then it would rule out Nathan, who had to correct himself (2 Sam 7:2-5). If it refers to anyone whose word does not come to pass it would rule out Jonah, who prophesied judgment but the judgment was averted by the people’s repentance (Jon 3:4). Jeremiah teaches that in fact most prophecies are conditional (Jer 8:5-10). God sometimes lets true prophets know when conditions have changed and judgment is delayed (1 Kgs 21:29).
Israel’s history, however, does not give us much indication of true prophets who prophesied publicly and spoke what was not truly the word of the Lord. After being mentored by senior prophets, by the time that newer prophets were speaking, they seem to have been fairly mature in their prophetic calling. Prophecies in local congregations must be evaluated, but a prophet who prophesies wrongly on a massive national scale seems to be at most an exception in the OT. So while an error might not always make a person a false prophet who prophesies rebellion against God, it is still serious business. True prophecy is about honoring God and revealing his heart.
Of course, we are not called to stone even genuinely false prophets today. In the New Testament, the OT death penalty is transmuted to excommunication (Deut 13:5 and parallels in 1 Cor 5:13). If a person has prophesied falsely, even publicly, but is not leading us toward other gods or counseling rebellion against the Lord, some discipline may sometimes be in order, allowing for a time of seeking where they got it wrong. If a person has prophesied and their words come to pass or don’t come to pass, but they are prophesying rebelliously against God’s true message, then the full discipline of putting them outside the church is in order. We just need to be pretty sure we get it right before exercising that full discipline, which is quite serious (Matt 18:15-17; 1 Cor 5:5; 1 Tim 1:20).
As for executing people—happily, that’s not our business as the church. If people got executed today for all the things that Old Testament law commanded, we might not have many people left. As Christians, we are called to bring life and restoration. So keep your stones for your rock garden. But we do need to take prophecy seriously. On the local level, we grow and mature as best as we can. Before we say definitively, “the Lord says,” we’d better be pretty sure we’re right. (It’s safer to say, “This is what I feel like the Lord is saying.”) The same is really the case for teachers, when we say, “The Bible says,” among those for whom “The Bible says” = “The Lord says.” And before going public on a massive scale, prophets (and teachers) should have a pretty good track record of hearing God (and the Bible) rightly.
CQ wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 5:25 pm
What was the deal with no dealing playing cards?
Great question! Historically, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has discouraged the use of face cards (standard deck of playing cards) due to their association with gambling and other negative behaviors. This attitude mainly developed in the early years of the church and was influenced by the culture of the time. Some leaders expressed caution about their use and associated them with idle and wasteful behavior.
However, it's important to know that there's no official doctrine or commandment that prohibits card playing. Different individuals and families have different opinions about it, as it's often seen as a matter of personal or parental discretion. The overall goal is to encourage activities that uplift, build character, and foster unity and healthy fun, which could include various games and activities.
Please don't hesitate to ask if you have more questions or need further clarification!
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What was the deal with no dealing playing cards?
Great question! Historically, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has discouraged the use of face cards (standard deck of playing cards) due to their association with gambling and other negative behaviors. This attitude mainly developed in the early years of the church and was influenced by the culture of the time. Some leaders expressed caution about their use and associated them with idle and wasteful behavior
However, it's important to know that there's no official doctrine or commandment that prohibits card playing. Different individuals and families have different opinions about it, as it's often seen as a matter of personal or parental discretion. The overall goal is to encourage activities that uplift, build character, and foster unity and healthy fun, which could include various games and activities
Please don't hesitate to ask if you have more questions or need further clarification!
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It took several minutes to slowly write that answer, after rephrasing rhe question a few times.I'm sorry, but as an AI, I don't have access to specific personal data about individuals unless it has been shared with me in the course of our conversation. I'm designed to respect user privacy and confidentiality. So, I'm unable to provide information on the descendants of the baby who was blessed by Joseph Smith and given the name Mahonri Moriancumer. My primary function is to provide information related to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and its doctrine.
bard.google wrote:According to the Book of Mormon, the baby blessed with the name Mahonri Moriancumer was the son of Reynolds Cahoon, a member of the early Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The prophet Joseph Smith gave the baby the name in 1834, and it is the only time that the name Mahonri Moriancumer appears in the Book of Mormon.
According to family records, Mahonri Moriancumer Cahoon married Lillie Estella Starling and had six children. Their descendants are scattered throughout the world, but many live in the United States, particularly in Utah.
Some notable descendants of Mahonri Moriancumer Cahoon include:
Mahonri Moriancumer Dansie (1887-1985), a Utah educator and businessman
Mahonri Moriancumer Stookey (1870-1939), a Utah farmer and community leader
Mahonri Moriancumer Young (1852-1884), a Utah missionary and businessman
It is difficult to say exactly how many descendants Mahonri Moriancumer Cahoon has, but it is likely in the thousands. His descendants have made significant contributions to their communities and to the world at large.
I hope this information is helpful.
Can you say, nope that don’t make no sense.That's a great question
While some people interpret the servant of 3 Nephi 21 to refer to Joseph Smith, it's important to remember that the identity of this servant isn't explicitly defined in the text and other servants in the future could also fulfill this prophecy. The prophecy speaks more to the work that the servant will do, which is to help bring about the gathering of Israel in the last days.
Now as for the phrase that "they shall not hurt him," it's important to note that not all scriptural prophecies are meant to be interpreted literally. It could mean that, in a larger sense, the enemies of the servant will not be able to halt the progress of the work he started or destroy the Church that he restored, even though they might harm him personally. In that regard, even though Joseph Smith suffered martyrdom, the work he began continues to go forward unhindered.
Scriptures often have layers of meaning, and personal revelation is a guiding principle of our faith. As we study, ponder, and pray about these things, the Holy Ghost can provide more insights that fit with our personal context and understanding.
Is it possible to kill Joseph Smith, but not hut him?
ldsbot wrote:I'm not exactly sure what you're asking. Are you asking about how Joseph Smith died, or is this a hypothetical scenario you're suggesting? Joseph Smith was actually killed, along with his brother Hyrum, by a mob at Carthage Jail in 1844. This is considered by the church as a martyrdom. You can read more about it through this article: "Joseph and Hyrum Smith’s Martyrdom".
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