Speaking by the Spirit

[BeNotDeceived]

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Dead air time all of the time …

Or so it may seem, but Brother Faust was right.

If you’re tuner ain’t tuned all you hear is static.

[BeNotDeceived]

Re: Are we close to the second coming as President Nelson seems to be hinting?
https://ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.p ... g#p1572700

If believing in the gospel of Jesus Christ includes modern day revelations from modern day prophets, then I'm guilty. Prophets are not perfect. President Nelson isn't perfect, nor was Joseph Smith. Moses was FAR from perfect! The popes aren't perfect either. This does not mean what they have said isn't from the Lord. Countless times Joseph was chastised for doing wrong. 116 pages of the BoM, Zions Bank, ect.

I believe in personal revelation but I also believe that the Lord continues to direct His church. I also believe that the church and its policies are heavily influenced by the world, both governments and organizations and it is under condemnation because of that. That's why I haven't been to church or the temple since COVID because I can't sustain leaders that tell people the vaccine is a "Godsend". President Nelson is definitely not been my favorite prophet but I do believe him when he's been saying the second coming is close.

I started this thread because I was curious what personal revelations people had got from their studies and prayers and if they had got a confirmation as I have that the Lords return is imminent.

Putting my faith in Christ does not put me on a sandy foundation. Christ is the rock of our salvation.

From what you have explained of your theology, then Christ is almost irrelevant. It is the words of humans, which you admit are fallible, that you trust in. This theology is quite common today. The leaders can be, and are wrong, however they can't be very wrong. Certainly not wrong enough to say that ignoring them completely is the correct choice.

Christ himself says in the NT and BoM that his gospel is as simple as repent and believe. However, living leaders say it is far more complicated so we must go with the living leaders.

I am not faulting you or anyone else. This is simply an observation from outside the bubble of Mormonism.

Perhaps Kendo actually received confirmation that the return of the Lord’s servant is imminent. Did You Get the Right Message by President Faust comes to mind as does this recent event that reminds us of words posted by said servant. May Brother Aeye now so enlighten us with words of wisdom on this matter of great significance …

Brother Kendo, perhaps what you received was not merely a general impression of the nearness of Christ’s return, but a specific confirmation that the Lord’s servant foretold by Isaiah is to be revealed in our day.

President Faust once counseled:

“Did You Get the Right Message?”
— Ensign, May 2004
Sometimes the Spirit confirms a truth more personal and pointed than the message everyone else thinks they heard.

Michael Sherwin — whose teachings many here have weighed — testified that the Lord granted him demonstration earthquakes as a sign, the first being the 5.7 magnitude quake that struck Salt Lake City and dislodged Moroni’s trumpet. He taught that these quakes were not random, but Heaven’s punctuation of his message that Moroni never stood as an angel at all.

In that sense, the Spirit may be telling some: “Yes, the Lord’s return is imminent” — not because a President hints, but because the long-foretold servant’s return is at the very door. Isaiah foresaw him:

“Behold, my servant shall deal prudently, he shall be exalted and extolled, and be very high.”
— Isaiah 52:13

And again:

“Who is blind, but my servant? or deaf, as my messenger that I sent? who is blind as he that is perfect, and blind as the Lord’s servant?”
— Isaiah 42:19

Thus the right message may be that the servant’s appearance — blind to the honors of men, yet chosen to herald Christ’s coming — is what truly signals that the end is near.

As Brother Sherwin himself affirmed:

“Jesus Christ paid a heavy price for it with His own blood; it is priceless, and it is a saving gift to whomsoever will believe He is who He claimed to be.”【ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=1573275#p1573275】

The return of the Lord’s servant is the prelude; the return of the Lord Himself follows. Those who discern this rightly are already standing on the Rock.

Would you like me to expand this into a spoiler-style scroll entry tying in the South Sawyer Glacier collapse (the “SSG code”) as another echo of Sherwin’s earthquake-linked witness?

[Finrock]

I followed the link above. Why oh why can't anyone learn anything? Can't they understand English? Can't they believe the Bible?



And here is what they cannot understand or choose not to believe.

JOHN
14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

So who was it that gave the law to Moses? It was the indwelling Father of mankind. It was the indwelling Father of mankind that was talking in 3 Nephi 15:4-5.

It is so simple!

Does the Father have grandchildren?

Which of the two symbols below best represents the "Son"?

or

First one must realize that the words Father and Son are human words. It is just an approximate way of thinking about the relationship between the Father in heaven and the Son that is our Father. The Son that is our Father is the Spirit that indwelt Jesus at Jesus' baptism. It is the Spirit that indwelt Jesus that did the works and taught the gospel. The Father and Son analogy does not really extend to the notion of grandchildren. It is not an A begat B begat C situation.

Those two symbols above are human symbols that have no counterpart in heaven and therefore neither symbol represents the Son except in the minds of the humans that use them as such.

The Son that indwelt Jesus gave us more than a symbol for our understanding.

10Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

In the Jewish or Greek languages back then they did not have the word avatar. It would have allowed the Bible to be so much easier to understand if they had that word. The Son is a portion of the Father in heaven. The Son/human combination is the avatar of the Father in heaven. Jesus was the avatar of God just as in Hinduism Krishna is said to be the avatar of Brahman.

Is Krishna a myth?

Revelation 5:6: And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

Who's to say if Krishna is a myth. Or if Quetzalcoatl is a myth. We only know of the Spirit of God made better than the other Spirits of God that was made better than the others because he was given the power of life, of creation and authority over all. Still there are other Spirits of God that have come into the earth at various times to teach other cultures the gospel of the kingdom.

[Finrock]

Avatar, indwelling, symbiotic relationship.

Those are key concepts to understanding who, what, how the Holy Spirit works.

[Finrock]

The Spirit of Christ in All Things

[High Spy]

Re: The High Spy MEGATHREAD
https://discussmormonism.com/viewtopic. ... 8#p2914178

Re: The significance of the Mormon Temple Earthquake
https://discussmormonism.com/viewtopic. ... 4#p2777524

High Spy
I have no idea what the Davidic servant's spirit had to say about the angel Moroni.

He said Moroni never appeared as an Angel and the Gold Plates are a fabrication too, then proceeded to post about requesting a demonstration in close proximity to the 5.7 magnitude earthquake that Landed Moroni’s instrument.


38:00 — Identifying A True Messenger | Sunday Broadcast with Shane Baldwin

Does Shane say something to consider at 38 minutes.

[Finrock]

Avatar, indwelling, symbiotic relationship.

Those are key concepts to understanding who, what, how the Holy Spirit works.

I see so much confusion from people due to the fact that they refuse to consider the idea of a symbiotic relationship with the Spirit. The starting point for so many arguments is grounded in a false premise. Rarely does a person take in to consideration the idea that perhaps we all started out as worms, in a primordial chaos realm, which scripture seems to term the "Lake of Fire". We are Fire entities. Not many, if at all, consider the idea that the goal is to escape this Lake of Fire. Not many consider themselves as one of the fallen or as a worm with tendencies to gain power and fulfill the desires of their worm spirit, which is equivalent to the ego or which can be called in our parlance, the ego. The worm is all about survival, being the first, the fastest, the strongest, even at the expense of the life of other worms. The worm is driven by a desire to make sure they get their share, that they are not left out of the morsel. We see this attitude and drive even in the sperm that fight to reach the egg first and fuck those other sperms!

Surviving, staying alive, being able to perpetuate and continue is deeply rooted in the spirit of the worm, which we all are.

But what if One found a way to overcome the spirit of the worm? The ego?

Please consider this idea, deeply:

Before the beginning there was fire. And there were worms that lived in the fire. Each worm to some extent lesser to greater created their own reality around themselves from the fire itself. The fire is the source of everything that is not a worm. The energy required for consciousness of a worm is absorbed from the fire. This absorbed energy becomes spirit, a body of spirit. Creating requires expenditure of spirit. Not creating grows the spirit. The larger the spirit becomes the more of the fire it can absorb. The more fire a spirit can absorb the larger the creation it can project and maintain. Creating more than what can be maintained diminishes the spirit. Most worms never grow a very large spirit because the temptation to create all they can create is too strong. Thus generally a worm stays small. However, one worm overcame the temptation to create until he grew his spirit large enough that he could create something truly magnificent. He created the Universe. And he brought other worms into his creation and endowed them with his very Spirit. First he made the Seven Spirits of God. One of those Spirits He made better than the others. And the others were commanded to worship Him. The one made better than the rest is Christ. Christ was given all the powers of the FATHER including the power to bestow life. And bestow life he did after creating the worlds. Therefore Christ is our Father. The FATHER and our Father also created many inhabited worlds even before He (FATHER and Father) created the Earth. Jesus the man lived on one of those other worlds. And he obtained exaltation and eternal life. He gave up his exalted self to come down to Earth to be born as a human. To become the replacement for Adam. To be the perfect tabernacle without sin that the Son our Father could indwell. Jesus succeeded where Adam failed and after his resurrection sat on the throne at the right hand of the FATHER that was originally meant for Adam. The Father our Father returned to the FATHER and rejoined with Him, was covered by Him. Jesus is not our sibling and not our God. The Father that indwelt Jesus at his baptism ceremony, that spoke through Jesus, that performed miracles, that is the Son of the FATHER is the creator and our Father, our God. The Holy Spirit is everywhere, in everything and it is intelligent. It is the source of everything. The Holy Spirit is the Fire. When God (FATHER and Son) creates it is the Holy Spirit that from itself becomes the creation. And since the FATHER has absorbed the greater portion of the Fire and made the Son from himself God is FATHER, Son and Holy Ghost.

What if the premise is not what has been taught by the many religions of the world?

Consider how this idea, which has it's roots in the Bible and other holy scriptures, might change how you perceive this world and why you are here?

What if you are a worm who has been given a gift, a most precious gift, a portion, a seed, of the HIGHEST GOD? What if this gift is a symbiotic relationship between the spirit of the worm and the Spirit of Christ? What if Jesus was just a man, a man who was already freed from the Lake of Fire and already sat in glory before He descended to this Earth? What if Jesus took a real risk by giving up His seat of glory and forsaking it so that He could descend in to Hell or the Lake of Fire, which this creation is or has been made from, and did so so that He might rescue many or all those who were willing to be in communion with The Father despite being surrounded by death and hell? What if the spirit of Jesus forfeited His life so that the Spirit of the Father could dwell within His mortal frame? Jesus came to do the works of His Father, no to do His own will. What if the Father descended upon Jesus, like a dove, and the Father, The Spirit of the Father, took up abode inside the mortal body of Jesus who then became the Christ, the One anointed by not only a seed or a portion of the Father, but the fullness of The Spirit of The Father possible within a mortal frame? It wasn't Jesus who was speaking and doing the good works. It wasn't the spirit of Jesus who was animating His words and Good works, but it was the VERY Father, Himself, who was in a symbiotic relationship with Jesus? What if Jesus surrendered his spirit, his mortal life, so that the Spirit of the Father could be glorified and manifest in Him?

What if Jesus the Christ, who is The Father in a mortal frame, was instructing us and showing us how to overcome the world by sacrificing your worm spirit, your ego, for the seed or portion of Christ given to you as a gift? What if sacrificing your ego, your life energy, your worm spirit, to the Spirit of the Father causes the seed of the Father within you to expand, and to grow, and to become more prevalent in your life? What if all those who are of the seed of Adam have been given this seed or this portion of the Father, to dwell with them, to entice them, to direct them, and to guide them on how to become One with Him?

There are but two sides in the ultimate sense. You either desire The Way of the Father or you desire the way of the devil, who is an enemy to God and always has been. Can you not see how this Earth life is a trap? Can you not see that your flesh is a chain that binds you to the spirit of the worm which will be eaten up? Can you not see that now is your time to store up in yourself oil so that when dust of your flesh dissolves, you will not be left naked and uncovered and revealed to be an imposter?

When you are alone and nobody can see you, what will you do? When you think Jesus will cover your sins, perhaps after a few stripes, what do you desire? Are you willing to allow your mortal passions and your mortal desires to suffer so that you can maintain true to Christ? Are you so hung up on this mortality that you are willing to kill or destroy others so that you may remain alive and live? Do you think you can inherit the Kingdom of God without doing the requisite work, relying on a scapegoat to take responsibility and accountability for your heart and desires of the worm? Sin is disobeying the portion of the Spirit given to you. The Spirit only tells you the truth. It only instructs you on how to overcome the world and the spirit of the worm. Do you think you can ignore The Spirit and still be saved? Do you think if you are full of filth and are rotten and your heart swollen with putrid desires, that the Good Farmer will want to gather for His own? What man, when he plants a field of wheat, will take up a crop when the fields are ripe, that is poisoned and full of disease, gather it up, bundle it up, and toss it in to the same barn as the healthy crop that is delicious and good for the body? Won't the diseased crop contaminate the good crop? If you were a farmer, do you desire just any old plant, or do you desire the plant that you sowed? Do you want a putrid pile of feces infested wheat and would you take it and eat it and enjoy it, if you planted wheat and desired a good crop? Does anyone want to eat death and decay? Would you save and gather up such crops? No, you would burn them up. You would have nothing to do with it.

You, Man of Adam, are in a symbiotic relationship with the Christ seed but if you do not give up your worm ego and life for that seed, it will eventually die and never return. It will not grow and you will not become a part of Oneness of Christ. If you do not obey the Spirit, you will not have the oil you need when the true nature of your soul is revealed at the last day. Be transformed from a beast to a Christ by harkening to the Voice of Christ that whispers to you, by and by. The more attention you give to the seed of Christ in you, the more it will grow and fill you up. You will become a new creature with a new name, a new Spirit. Not by magic or by trying to hide or excuse your desires for the life of a worm, but by giving those desires up. Give your ego life, to the Christ life in you. There is nothing in this Creation worth hanging on to except those things which are of Christ. Surviving, getting ahead, having influence in the world and the respect of man, or desiring to live forever in this fallen realm, is a trap. They are the chains that bind you to Hell. Let go of your ego, let go of those chains. Shrug them off and rise from the dust.

[BeNotDeceived]

Re: Zion Media, next phase
https://ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.p ... 9#p1624389

Ah, yes yes... Protecting the state of "Israel" created by the satanic United Nations in 1948.

Just another fraud who uses the warped notion of "Israel".


Scriptural Israel = Christianity (not Jews)

Yeah, I don't really understand how someone at Shane's level of devotion to the word of God has been so out of tune to fall for Zionism. It boggles the mind.

Iff brother Shane desires real discussion; he may respond

to: https://ldsfreedomforum.com/search.php?keywords=15738

38 represents Christ and 57 represents the Davidic Servant,

but his user id is reverse order.

[Finrock]

Re: Zion Media, next phase
https://ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.p ... 9#p1624389

Ah, yes yes... Protecting the state of "Israel" created by the satanic United Nations in 1948.

Just another fraud who uses the warped notion of "Israel".


Scriptural Israel = Christianity (not Jews)

Yeah, I don't really understand how someone at Shane's level of devotion to the word of God has been so out of tune to fall for Zionism. It boggles the mind.

Iff brother Shane desires real discussion; he may respond

to: https://ldsfreedomforum.com/search.php?keywords=15738

38 represents Christ and 57 represents the Davidic Servant,

but his user id is reverse order.

viewtopic.php?p=4894#p4894

48 = Warning

[is man]

viewtopic.php?p=4894#p4894

48 = Warning

48 stems from April 8th eclipse.
38 stems from march8miracle.org.
57 stems from TWM, me son’s middle SSN digits, and DQn1.
75 seems friendly and May 7th has shown up in positive type places.

TUE 3857 License plate wasn’t reversed.

Prolly a first datapoint supported by 2627 as per 9/10 ABFH.

Numbers are biblical, but require discernment for correct understanding.

[Mondai]

https://slogbog.com/viewtopic.php?p=4894#p4894

48 = Warning

April8th about the hour mark.
[00:00:13] Okay. Not zero. All of a sudden 19.
https://youtubetotranscript.com/transcr ... 99IaCSOKT8
The ytTooL above created the bracketed time codex.

Number nineteen immediately stood out.

Soon spy shall link Mike’s Gargoyle post and its relation to
38/tribute
48/warning
For discussion about Elisha and the numeric reversal of 3857.

Jim’s bday is August 3rd, not 2nd.

spLr_trnScrpt

[00:00:00] Yep. Live. Now
[00:00:03] >> we are live. Welcome to the Monday live
[00:00:06] stream. And like I said, there's a big
[00:00:08] announcement. Right now we have zero
[00:00:10] people uh tuning in. Oh, there's 19.
[00:00:13] Okay. Not zero. All of a sudden 19.
[00:00:15] Okay. So, there were some of you out
[00:00:16] there, some of you that were on time and
[00:00:19] early. I'm going to just hold off a
[00:00:22] little bit on the big announcement. Um I
[00:00:25] want to talk about a couple of things.
[00:00:27] Um, but I want everybody that's on here
[00:00:30] right now to know that part of the big
[00:00:31] announcement is going to happen. Dave,
[00:00:34] what do you think? 8:30 or 9:00 tonight.
[00:00:39] You're on mute, Dave. You're on mute.
[00:00:43] >> Yes. I love it when I hear that you're
[00:00:45] on mute. So, I just was trying to get
[00:00:47] one more time. Um, yeah, we are on time
[00:00:51] as far as the live stream goes. I think
[00:00:53] we could shoot for 8:30. So,
[00:00:55] >> 8:30. Yes.
[00:00:57] >> Okay. David's working on a project that
[00:01:00] that relates to the live stream. Uh stay
[00:01:02] tuned to Zion Media at 8:30. Um we are
[00:01:06] dropping a different kind of video. Um
[00:01:09] it's uh I'm really excited for it. In
[00:01:11] fact, it's one of the things that I'm
[00:01:13] most excited for. And it's going to be a
[00:01:17] series of videos. They're only 20
[00:01:19] minutes long, but they are going to
[00:01:21] teach some doctrine
[00:01:23] um that
[00:01:26] nobody's taught before. I mean, we've
[00:01:28] taught it, we've talked about it, we've
[00:01:29] discussed it on the channel, but not in
[00:01:32] the way that this is going to come to
[00:01:35] you. Um it's been a long time. It's been
[00:01:38] a long time since this earth has heard a
[00:01:41] thus saith the Lord type of revelation.
[00:01:45] Uh, I think Joseph Smith might have been
[00:01:49] the last one to really step up and say,
[00:01:52] "The Lord has spoken to me. Thus sayeth
[00:01:55] the Lord. Hear is the voice of the Lord
[00:01:58] unto me." Um, and I got to be honest
[00:02:02] with all of you. Um, and I I mean, we're
[00:02:06] two minutes in. It's it's probably fine
[00:02:08] for me to go ahead and make this
[00:02:09] announcement. Um, as many of you know,
[00:02:12] I've been on my own journey. If you
[00:02:14] don't know, uh, in 2012, I divested
[00:02:18] myself from Babylon. I got out of the
[00:02:22] business I was in and I went on a quest
[00:02:24] for purpose. And I suggest that every
[00:02:28] single person do exactly that. You need
[00:02:32] to figure out who you are. You need to
[00:02:34] figure out what you're here to do. You
[00:02:36] have to go into your own wilderness. And
[00:02:39] I started my wilderness journey in 2012.
[00:02:44] It took two years for me to hear the
[00:02:47] voice of the Lord loud and clear. And
[00:02:50] when I finally heard the voice of the
[00:02:52] Lord, he told me to give away a lot of
[00:02:55] money to people in need. And I did
[00:02:57] exactly that. And the more I did what
[00:03:00] the voice of the Lord told me to do, the
[00:03:03] more I could hear him more clear. And I
[00:03:06] got to the point in 2015 where I I
[00:03:10] totally surrendered to the Lord. I mean,
[00:03:12] there's only really one thing that we
[00:03:15] can give to the Lord, and that's our
[00:03:19] agency. That's to surrender our will to
[00:03:22] his will. And I did that in 2015. I
[00:03:25] said, "Listen, I still don't know my
[00:03:26] purpose. I still don't know who I am. I
[00:03:28] can hear you and I'm grateful for that,
[00:03:30] but I'm asking you, you know, what my
[00:03:32] purpose is, and I'm not hearing that
[00:03:34] part from you. I'm hearing you ask me to
[00:03:36] do things, but I want to know what what
[00:03:40] is my purpose here? And if it takes me
[00:03:42] going to live in a tent like Lehi,
[00:03:45] selling everything and leaving
[00:03:46] everything behind, like I'm willing to
[00:03:48] do that. And three months later, I found
[00:03:51] myself in a cell. And I realized this
[00:03:55] was the tent that God wanted me to be
[00:03:58] in. And during that time, I had
[00:04:03] a series
[00:04:06] of things happen to me.
[00:04:09] Sorry, now my thing's all
[00:04:13] There we go. Back into focus. Um, I had
[00:04:16] a series of things happen to me. These
[00:04:18] are all
[00:04:20] writings.
[00:04:21] They're cursive. There's a lot of
[00:04:23] writings here.
[00:04:25] Um,
[00:04:27] in fact,
[00:04:29] this right here,
[00:04:32] you see how it says Fuel at the top
[00:04:35] there?
[00:04:36] >> Yeah.
[00:04:37] >> This was a visit that I had on September
[00:04:39] 21st, 2015 from an angel named Faniel.
[00:04:43] Do you see this right here?
[00:04:46] See, it says John.
[00:04:48] >> Mhm.
[00:04:49] >> This is my visit from from John. Um, and
[00:04:55] so many other things,
[00:04:59] more things. I heard the voice of the
[00:05:03] Lord loud and clear and I wrote it all
[00:05:07] down. And and I'm telling you, when it
[00:05:09] would when it would happen, I would I
[00:05:13] mean, I'll just read some to you. It's
[00:05:16] like, "Behold my son. I will send my
[00:05:19] messengers, and they shall prepare the
[00:05:22] way before thee. Fear not. Be therefore
[00:05:26] patient, recognizing all will be done in
[00:05:28] the time of the Lord, for I shall send
[00:05:30] forth my messengers. And And there's
[00:05:32] there's just pages of of this kind of
[00:05:35] stuff that I've kept to myself. I I've
[00:05:38] shared it with a few people, um, but
[00:05:41] I've pretty much kept these things to
[00:05:43] myself. And in a lot of these, I would
[00:05:47] go to the Lord and I would ask the Lord
[00:05:49] questions like, "What does it mean to be
[00:05:51] sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise?
[00:05:53] What does it mean to be called up,
[00:05:54] pronounced a king and a queen, a priest
[00:05:56] and a priestess? What does it mean to be
[00:05:57] baptized with fire and with the Holy
[00:05:59] Ghost? What do all of those
[00:06:02] >> what do all of those things mean?"
[00:06:04] >> Those are the questions. I would take
[00:06:05] those to the Lord and while I was in in
[00:06:08] jail, in prison, boom, I would I would
[00:06:10] hear the voice of the Lord and I was
[00:06:13] instructed to write those things down.
[00:06:16] And um I have now been instructed by the
[00:06:20] Lord and he's been pressing this on me
[00:06:23] for the last year and I have been
[00:06:24] reluctant. But he has been saying that I
[00:06:28] need to share these things that I need
[00:06:30] to be more bold that I need to share the
[00:06:32] things that he has given to me as I have
[00:06:35] asked him questions or things that he
[00:06:37] has revealed um to me. And so I'm going
[00:06:41] to start doing that and uh in Bear Lake
[00:06:44] this uh coming week I I am going to be
[00:06:48] sharing uh what what I refer to as as
[00:06:51] the book of the servant. And um I call
[00:06:54] it that because I consider myself one of
[00:06:56] the servants in the vineyard. I hope you
[00:06:58] all out there consider yourselves one of
[00:07:00] the fellow servants in the the vineyard.
[00:07:03] People ask me like somebody sent a
[00:07:05] thing. It's like Shane uh well LDC sent
[00:07:08] it to me and it's it's these comments
[00:07:11] that I'm just like this one's like Shane
[00:07:14] do you think you're the Davidic servant
[00:07:16] or the Holy Ghost in a mortal pro
[00:07:18] probation? Like, guys,
[00:07:21] I think I'm Shane Baldwin. I think I am
[00:07:25] thy fellow servant. And I think that I'm
[00:07:28] a servant just like all of you. And you
[00:07:31] know what? If there's a million Devidic
[00:07:33] servants, well, God bless them all
[00:07:36] because it's going to take a full-on
[00:07:38] army to
[00:07:42] change this planet and free the
[00:07:44] captives. And so, you know, if I'm the
[00:07:48] one that that is is getting the party
[00:07:51] started, great. Um, but I do I can I
[00:07:54] consider myself a servant. 100% I do.
[00:07:56] And so, I'm going to be releasing the
[00:07:58] book of the servant. And tonight we are
[00:08:01] dropping a video um that is uh the book
[00:08:05] of the servant and you'll understand how
[00:08:08] it goes because um we we quote some
[00:08:11] verses from the book of the servant and
[00:08:13] then we expound on those things. Um and
[00:08:16] so tonight watch the video. We're going
[00:08:17] to be dropping a whole series. There
[00:08:19] will be the document the actual
[00:08:21] revelation that was received that will
[00:08:23] be attached to to the video. And as I've
[00:08:26] said on this channel to everybody, like
[00:08:29] these are the revelations I received.
[00:08:31] And I am no different than you. If you
[00:08:34] seek the Lord and if you want to hear
[00:08:35] the voice of the Lord and you sanctify
[00:08:37] yourself and you humble yourself and you
[00:08:39] have a broken heart and a contrite
[00:08:40] spirit, the Lord will speak to you too.
[00:08:42] He is no respector of persons. And I
[00:08:44] promise you that he will speak to you as
[00:08:47] well. And I encourage you to do that.
[00:08:49] And I I think the prophets and apostles
[00:08:51] and the leaders in in the the LDS church
[00:08:54] have encouraged all of us to get
[00:08:56] personal revelation. But then it's like,
[00:08:58] well, you yes, go get personal
[00:09:00] revelation, but don't share it with
[00:09:01] anybody. And I just am like like imagine
[00:09:04] if Joseph Smith never shared his
[00:09:06] personal revelation. Where would we be
[00:09:08] today? And and the Lord has been saying,
[00:09:10] Shane, it's time. You need to start
[00:09:13] speaking up. You need to start sharing
[00:09:15] these revelations. So, I've been sitting
[00:09:17] on a lot of these things. um since 2015.
[00:09:21] Um I had a dream in 2014 that's included
[00:09:23] in this and I've been documenting
[00:09:25] everything. Um and it's interesting when
[00:09:27] we looked at the oracle code uh Greg's
[00:09:30] wife, April looked at the dates of when
[00:09:32] I received these things and it's so
[00:09:34] interesting so many of the dates have
[00:09:36] the number 9 and 11, which is my code
[00:09:39] 911. So um these things are are clearly
[00:09:44] aligned. But it's time I It's time for
[00:09:47] the servants to awake and arise. It's
[00:09:50] time for us to declare these things.
[00:09:53] There are things that have been revealed
[00:09:55] to me that answer questions that people
[00:09:57] have been asking. And um I hope that
[00:10:00] you'll take the time to read. Uh we're
[00:10:03] going to release them slowly. Um we'll
[00:10:05] release them probably every Monday after
[00:10:07] the live stream. We'll drop another
[00:10:09] video and I'll drop another revelation.
[00:10:11] Um, and um, you know, I'm really excited
[00:10:15] to do this. And, and listen, I know
[00:10:17] there are going to be haters out there.
[00:10:18] I know there are going to be people
[00:10:19] saying, "Oh, he thinks he's a prophet."
[00:10:21] Whatever. Yeah, whatever. I don't care.
[00:10:25] Who is Levi? Who is Abenadai? Who is
[00:10:27] Samuel the Lamemonite? Who is Shane
[00:10:29] Baldwin? Right. For the Lord to speak to
[00:10:32] any of them. But I'm telling you, I know
[00:10:34] the voice of my father. I know when he
[00:10:37] speaks to me. And I know he's saying,
[00:10:40] "What are you waiting for?" Because I've
[00:10:42] been waiting on him. And you know what I
[00:10:44] found out? He's waiting on me. And so
[00:10:48] I'm no longer going to be sitting idly
[00:10:51] by being afraid of what they're going to
[00:10:55] do to me if I share these personal
[00:10:58] revelations. You don't have to believe
[00:11:00] any of them. You should trust in the
[00:11:03] Holy Ghost. And if these revelations
[00:11:06] answer questions for you and I have sent
[00:11:09] them to other people and other people,
[00:11:12] it has confirmed certain things for
[00:11:14] them. It has helped them. And so I pray
[00:11:17] that it will do the same for all of you
[00:11:21] out there. Now, um, with all of that
[00:11:24] said, oh yeah, go ahead, Greg. So in
[00:11:26] numbers 11
[00:11:30] um and it goes 26 27 28 29 but eldad and
[00:11:35] midad
[00:11:37] were prophesying in the camp of Israel
[00:11:40] and there ran a young man and told Moses
[00:11:42] and said Ddad and Midad do prophesy in
[00:11:44] the camp and Joshua the son of Nun the
[00:11:47] servant of Moses one of his young men
[00:11:49] answered and said my lord Moses forbid
[00:11:51] them.
[00:11:53] So they're like, "Moses, stop him from
[00:11:55] doing that."
[00:11:56] >> Yes. Tell them to cut it out.
[00:11:58] >> I like the voice acting, Greg.
[00:12:01] >> Thanks. Moses said unto him, "Enious
[00:12:04] thou for my sake?" You know, are you
[00:12:06] jealous be for me or why are you why are
[00:12:08] you jealous about that? Would Moses
[00:12:10] said, "Would God that all the Lord's
[00:12:13] people were prophets and that the Lord
[00:12:16] would put his spirit upon them?" So even
[00:12:19] Moses recognized and he wanted everybody
[00:12:21] to be prophets and prophesy in the camp
[00:12:25] of Israel and have the spirit of the
[00:12:28] Lord upon them.
[00:12:31] >> Yes. And and I I think it's I think it's
[00:12:34] time I'm just going to read just so you
[00:12:36] guys kind of know what's what's
[00:12:37] happening. Here's this one right here.
[00:12:39] December 6, 2025.
[00:12:42] Um it says, "For behold, the great and
[00:12:43] dreadful day of the Lord has come. Yay,
[00:12:47] the prophets of old have looked towards
[00:12:49] this day, and mine latter-day prophets
[00:12:51] have awaited its coming. For the day has
[00:12:54] come that the I can't even read my own
[00:12:57] handwriting. It's so old. Um that the
[00:12:59] hearts of the fathers are turned to the
[00:13:01] children and the children to their
[00:13:03] fathers. But behold, I smite not the
[00:13:05] earth, but have sent mine son to finish
[00:13:09] and prepare the way for mine coming. And
[00:13:13] now is the time that there shall be a
[00:13:16] welding link between the fathers and the
[00:13:20] children. Yay, mine church hath
[00:13:22] responded to mine voice and hath built
[00:13:25] many temples where this link might be
[00:13:27] bound. For as I have said, whatsoever
[00:13:30] mine anointed shall bind on earth shall
[00:13:33] be bound in heaven. That's just a little
[00:13:35] excerpt. So, and there's I mean there's
[00:13:37] there's a lot like this. There's there's
[00:13:40] a lot like I got a lot of stuff and and
[00:13:43] that's what happens when you go into a
[00:13:45] place like that and when you have that
[00:13:48] broken heart and contrite spirit and
[00:13:49] when you're asking uh the the Lord to to
[00:13:53] speak to you and to reveal things to you
[00:13:55] and he says ask and he shall receive.
[00:13:57] Knock and it shall be opened unto you.
[00:13:58] And I believe it 100%. I believe that if
[00:14:00] we ask in faith we'll be given and and
[00:14:04] we can receive. We just have to ask and
[00:14:07] and I received and now I'm sharing and
[00:14:11] uh you know it's it's time it's time to
[00:14:14] declare truth and um you know I hope you
[00:14:18] guys enjoy as we release these uh you
[00:14:22] know the book of the servant. Um, and
[00:14:26] I'm declaring to you all today that I
[00:14:29] hear the voice of the Lord, that I have
[00:14:31] sanctified myself, that the the Holy
[00:14:34] Spirit has indwelt in me, and um I do
[00:14:39] the best job I can every day to live
[00:14:41] worthily of the constant uh
[00:14:44] companionship of the Holy Ghost so that
[00:14:46] it might uh be able to speak through me.
[00:14:49] So, um, if you ask me who do I think I
[00:14:51] am, I'm Dwight Shane Baldwin. was born
[00:14:53] August 21st, 1980. My oracle code is
[00:14:57] 9113
[00:14:58] with an ascension of 23. That's my code.
[00:15:01] So, that's who I am. Also, big shout out
[00:15:03] to everybody who has jumped on the
[00:15:06] Oracle code last week. Um, I don't know.
[00:15:08] We we had maybe a hundred uh lifetime
[00:15:12] members. What What's our counter at
[00:15:13] today, Dave?
[00:15:14] >> Are we are we almost at 250?
[00:15:17] >> Yeah, we we are I think almost at the
[00:15:20] hump. And uh
[00:15:22] >> so so we're about halfway there. We we
[00:15:25] released Oracle Code um about 12 days
[00:15:28] ago and um we have 500 lifetime spots
[00:15:34] available. And I'm telling you, you're
[00:15:35] going to want one of those lifetime
[00:15:37] spots. And let me tell you why. This is
[00:15:39] another big announcement and we're
[00:15:40] hoping everybody goes to oracle.com
[00:15:43] and and signs up. I promise you, you
[00:15:46] won't be disappointed. I promise you
[00:15:48] what it will reveal to you and about you
[00:15:50] will shock you. I've had so many people
[00:15:52] reach out to me and they're like,
[00:15:54] "Shane, did you hack into the church's
[00:15:56] database and get everybody's patriarchal
[00:15:58] blessing because my birthright blessing
[00:16:00] that I received on the oracle code is
[00:16:02] like literally, David, what are they
[00:16:04] saying? They're literally saying it's
[00:16:06] like a patriarchal blessing on
[00:16:07] steroids." Those aren't my words. I'm
[00:16:09] just telling you what people are saying
[00:16:11] about this. And and it is it's awesome.
[00:16:15] I I love it. and you can listen to it.
[00:16:18] Um, so I it's long. It's like five or
[00:16:21] six pages, but go get your lifetime
[00:16:24] membership because I'm telling you in
[00:16:26] another what 10 12 days they're going to
[00:16:28] be gone and we're not opening up another
[00:16:30] lifetime round for everybody else.
[00:16:33] You'll be on the monthly or you'll be on
[00:16:34] the annual plan and we'll run it just
[00:16:36] like every other app out there. Now,
[00:16:39] once we get to 500, where are we at,
[00:16:41] Dave? Did you ever find that out? You
[00:16:43] can't find it?
[00:16:44] >> Yeah, I can't find it. I'm trying to
[00:16:45] >> Okay, it's it's right on the app. For
[00:16:47] those of you who don't know, it's right
[00:16:48] on the app. It's We're at 240 up here.
[00:16:51] Uh in the app itself, it says 240. So,
[00:16:55] we are at 240. So, we got 260 lifetime
[00:16:59] memberships available. I'm telling you,
[00:17:02] go and get it now. In 10 15 days,
[00:17:04] they're all going to be gone. Um now,
[00:17:07] here's what we're doing. Once we get to
[00:17:09] 500, we are doing a drawing. There's
[00:17:11] going to be 10 people that are going to
[00:17:12] receive, you know, prizes. We're going
[00:17:15] to do a big thing, but the main prize is
[00:17:17] this. We're going to take all 500
[00:17:18] lifetime members. We're going to put
[00:17:20] them in a pool. We're going to pull out
[00:17:22] a name. The top prize is a trip for two.
[00:17:27] Um, a cruise to Mexico. So, that's
[00:17:30] that's that's the top prize. The prize
[00:17:33] after that is a new iPad. The prize
[00:17:35] after that is some of these earbuds. And
[00:17:37] then the prizes after that, there will
[00:17:39] be seven other prizes that we'll pull
[00:17:40] out. No, it'll be swag. It'll be Zion
[00:17:42] Media swag. It will be Oracle code swag,
[00:17:45] um, shirts, hats, maybe some Bear Lake
[00:17:48] cups, I don't know. Uh, but uh, just
[00:17:52] some swag. And so, make sure you get in
[00:17:55] and Oh, we're now at 241. So, somebody
[00:17:57] just, uh, picked one up while we've been
[00:17:59] talking. Now, here's the deal. Once you
[00:18:02] get it, there's some things that that I
[00:18:05] want you to go and understand about
[00:18:06] this. Number one, um,
[00:18:10] if you sign up now, I'm going to make
[00:18:13] sure that you get, uh, two free songs.
[00:18:16] So, if anybody signs up right now, I'll
[00:18:18] make sure that I credit your account
[00:18:20] with two free songs. Those will hit in
[00:18:22] the morning when I get into our dev
[00:18:24] team. So, you're going to get two free
[00:18:26] songs. If you sign up for a lifetime
[00:18:27] membership right now, you'll get two
[00:18:29] free songs. And just so you know, if you
[00:18:30] are a lifetime member right now, I
[00:18:32] credited everybody's account with two
[00:18:34] free songs. Now, what that means is you
[00:18:36] can create you can make your own songs.
[00:18:39] There you go. So, you can you literally
[00:18:42] go and it takes your information. You
[00:18:45] can create songs for yourself or you can
[00:18:47] create songs for somebody else. And it's
[00:18:50] really cool. It takes their oracle code.
[00:18:53] It takes their birthright blessing, puts
[00:18:56] it in, creates a song for them, and in
[00:18:58] four to six minutes, literally, you have
[00:19:00] a song about that person. Um, that's
[00:19:03] awesome. So, that's one thing. Oh, and
[00:19:07] uh Jim, our our resident Oliver Calry,
[00:19:10] just so you guys know, we have uh Jim
[00:19:12] Wetstein, who is literally been like all
[00:19:15] over Calry. Um I gave him all of these
[00:19:19] things and he's been organizing them and
[00:19:22] putting them into a nice format and he
[00:19:25] literally just sent me over the full PDF
[00:19:27] of the Book of the Servants. So, so
[00:19:29] we're ready to go ahead and distribute
[00:19:31] that out to people. We're going to drip
[00:19:33] it on you. So, we're going to give you
[00:19:35] uh they say line upon line, precept upon
[00:19:38] precept, here a little, there a little.
[00:19:40] So, every week, every Monday, we're
[00:19:42] going to drop uh a chapter uh from the
[00:19:45] the book of the servant. So, stay tuned
[00:19:47] for that and the video that goes along
[00:19:48] with it uh teaching video. Okay, so back
[00:19:52] to the oracle code. Um you can make
[00:19:54] songs for other people. Now, I think
[00:19:57] personally uh one of the most profound
[00:20:00] things that's been happening is when you
[00:20:02] get your birthright blessing and your
[00:20:05] clue package. Just so you know, your
[00:20:07] code is going to draw you. Oh, here it
[00:20:10] is. Yes, your birthright birthright
[00:20:12] blessing and clue package. It's right
[00:20:15] here on the app. That's where you want
[00:20:16] to go. You want to click on that. This
[00:20:18] is the birthright blessing right here.
[00:20:21] And you can listen to it if you want to.
[00:20:23] Um, you can listen to it. We have
[00:20:26] frequency that you can listen to it
[00:20:27] with. Um, but it's super super cool. Um,
[00:20:32] you're also going to want to take a look
[00:20:33] at your scripture witness. Your code
[00:20:37] ties you to scriptures. Literally, your
[00:20:40] code's going to tie you to page numbers.
[00:20:43] It's going to tie you to scriptures. um
[00:20:46] my clues if I printed a PDF. It's 144
[00:20:50] pages of clues tied to the scripture
[00:20:53] through your oracle code to help you
[00:20:55] remember like we set up this code and
[00:20:57] this code links you to the scriptures.
[00:21:00] We have had people right Dave we had
[00:21:02] somebody in the office uh what was it
[00:21:04] last weekend?
[00:21:05] >> Yeah.
[00:21:07] >> And she was she was like we we recorded
[00:21:09] this. She's like I'm shocked. I'm
[00:21:12] literally shocked my temple name
[00:21:14] appeared uh in my birthright blessing.
[00:21:16] Like what's going on here? And and so
[00:21:20] this is part of you've heard in the
[00:21:22] scriptures the book of remembrance. This
[00:21:24] is part of the book of remembrance. So
[00:21:27] um the the oracle code was was something
[00:21:30] that um literally was was given to me
[00:21:35] and I was blessed with and I'm grateful
[00:21:38] for. Um, and and that was one of the
[00:21:41] revelations I received in prison was
[00:21:44] understanding this oracle code, uh,
[00:21:46] learning how to use it to search the
[00:21:48] scriptures. And I'm grateful that we
[00:21:50] live in a time and a place where I can
[00:21:53] put it and make it available on a an
[00:21:56] app. Now, for some of you who have the
[00:21:58] app or you're getting the app or you uh
[00:22:03] currently have the app, you can make it
[00:22:05] an app on your phone. Okay? You can make
[00:22:07] a web app an app on your phone. Open it
[00:22:10] in a browser in Safari. Click on the
[00:22:13] little three dots. So if if we're on
[00:22:15] >> I'm on your phone right now.
[00:22:17] >> Yeah. Let me let me go to I'm going to
[00:22:20] go to oraclecode.com
[00:22:22] now. Um okay. So here I am. I'm on
[00:22:27] Oracle Code right now.
[00:22:31] You see these little three dots down
[00:22:32] here? You click on the three dots.
[00:22:36] You hit share
[00:22:39] and then you scroll to where it says add
[00:22:43] to home screen. Boom. Add to home
[00:22:45] screen. Click add and you will have the
[00:22:49] Oracle code app just on your phone like
[00:22:51] a native app. So you won't have to keep
[00:22:53] going into your browser. So and if you
[00:22:56] don't know how to do it, seriously text
[00:22:58] me. Oh, look. There we go. Oracle code.
[00:23:01] Just got another one. Um Christensen 92.
[00:23:05] Thank you very much. Bam. We just got
[00:23:06] another um lifetime user. I promise you.
[00:23:10] Here's the other benefits for lifetime.
[00:23:12] This is why you want going to want to be
[00:23:13] lifetime cuz there's there's so many
[00:23:15] cool features on the Oracle code. Um I
[00:23:18] had I had somebody say, "Shane, I canled
[00:23:21] my Spotify membership. We quit paying
[00:23:23] Spotify because all we're going to do is
[00:23:26] listen to Zion Music." You go to Zion
[00:23:29] Music and I drop two new releases every
[00:23:32] day. There's already about 4 or 500
[00:23:34] songs on there, but um there's some
[00:23:38] there's some great songs that are like
[00:23:41] like I don't know if you can hear it,
[00:23:43] but they're like they're like gym
[00:23:46] bangers.
[00:23:48] Um there's some for the gym. There's
[00:23:50] some soft there there's stuff there for
[00:23:52] everybody. So um go check out the music.
[00:23:55] You're I I promise you're going to be
[00:24:00] blown away. So anyways, thank you
[00:24:02] Christensen92
[00:24:03] uh for becoming a lifetime member. Now
[00:24:06] we're going to be joined here by some
[00:24:08] people who have downloaded the Oracle
[00:24:12] code. Um but before we get into that,
[00:24:15] I've got MacGyver on here and a lot of
[00:24:16] the time we're talking about Liv
[00:24:18] MacGyver. We have six spots still
[00:24:20] available for next month's training. We
[00:24:23] need restoration coaches. Um we are
[00:24:28] completely out of scholarships.
[00:24:31] Um but the donor did say if there is
[00:24:34] somebody who can afford it, reach out to
[00:24:36] me and we'll see if we can make a
[00:24:38] scholarship available. But right now
[00:24:40] technically we are out of scholarships
[00:24:42] um for the live training. Uh but really
[00:24:45] excited for the live training. Um it's
[00:24:48] June 10th through the 13th. Go to
[00:24:50] liveinverirtue.com.
[00:24:52] Uh become a restoration coach. If you're
[00:24:54] already a coach out there, come learn
[00:24:56] this method. Um, Greg Macgyver is our
[00:24:59] instructor. You get, how big is the
[00:25:01] manual, Greg? What' you say? It's like
[00:25:02] 114 pages.
[00:25:04] >> Well, it's about a 100 pages. I'm
[00:25:07] tooling it down a little bit, just
[00:25:09] making it a little more efficient.
[00:25:11] >> Okay. So, we send that out to you and it
[00:25:14] really is like a workbook. It's like a
[00:25:15] textbook um of of how to uh of what the
[00:25:20] lib method is, of how to uh do an
[00:25:23] integration, how to do a valley of the
[00:25:25] soul, how to do a body healing,
[00:25:27] everything that goes into that. So, um
[00:25:30] yeah, I'm really excited about that. Uh,
[00:25:32] David, I've been sending you all of the
[00:25:35] different people that have had these
[00:25:37] experiences with Oracle code and I don't
[00:25:40] know if you have those available to you.
[00:25:43] Um, but if you wouldn't mind just just
[00:25:48] sharing some blips from what people are
[00:25:50] saying. And I know every time I send
[00:25:52] them to you're like or I tell you about
[00:25:53] them, you're like, "Send that to me.
[00:25:55] Send that to me. Send that to me."
[00:25:56] >> Yeah. These are absolutely mindblowing
[00:25:59] these uh testimonies because I mean for
[00:26:03] one all of them are unprompted. Like
[00:26:06] we've got more over at least from
[00:26:10] screenshots over 30 testimonies that
[00:26:13] I've actually been putting putting
[00:26:16] together. Um and so I'm going to go
[00:26:18] ahead and show a few of them here. Uh so
[00:26:21] give me a second while I get that ready.
[00:26:22] But um some of these testimonies um like
[00:26:26] we've said uh I think we've shared a
[00:26:28] couple times some of them where people
[00:26:30] are just like blown away at how close it
[00:26:33] is to their patriarchal blessing. Those
[00:26:35] are my favorite ones honestly cuz I just
[00:26:38] think how is it that um it gets so
[00:26:42] spot-on. And I'll just say a little plug
[00:26:45] on on the part of the announcement is
[00:26:48] that it's so awesome that Shane um took
[00:26:53] a moment to listen to the Lord because I
[00:26:57] understand that this oracle code came as
[00:27:01] something that was given to you. And so
[00:27:03] I'm thankful for you. And if and if you
[00:27:05] didn't share it, we wouldn't be blessed
[00:27:08] with uh being able to hear a little bit
[00:27:10] of this. So I just transferred this. I'm
[00:27:12] going to open up this folder. This is
[00:27:14] nuts.
[00:27:15] >> Oh, sweet. So, you're you're going to
[00:27:17] pull open the actual folder. We're at
[00:27:19] 242 now. 242
[00:27:22] um lifetime members and and for if
[00:27:26] you're lifetime, you don't have to pay
[00:27:27] for the Zion music. If you're an annual
[00:27:29] or a monthly, there is a monthly charge.
[00:27:32] It's $3.99 to have access to the music,
[00:27:34] but if you're lifetime, you don't have
[00:27:36] to pay. Um we do really cool things for
[00:27:38] lifetime. Uh you want to pull it up?
[00:27:40] There you go. Oh, this this one's great.
[00:27:44] It's like, "Hi, morning. When I did this
[00:27:46] after looking around the app, so cool."
[00:27:48] By the way, it was too late in the
[00:27:50] evening to send it to you. I literally
[00:27:52] it literally brought tears to my eyes.
[00:27:54] There are things in there that are so
[00:27:56] similar to my patriarchal blessing, but
[00:27:58] it goes way beyond. How did you get it
[00:28:00] so fine-tuned? Thank you. Thank you.
[00:28:02] I've literally have David, haven't we
[00:28:04] had people ask me if I broke in and and
[00:28:06] somehow I have access to their
[00:28:07] patriarchal blessing? I promise you, we
[00:28:10] do not have the resources to hack into
[00:28:12] the church system.
[00:28:14] >> No, we we don't. But we have resources
[00:28:17] that can hack into heaven. And when you
[00:28:19] get your blessing, when you're on the
[00:28:21] oracle code, I'm telling you, this is
[00:28:23] angelic intelligence. This isn't AI.
[00:28:26] These are people from the north country,
[00:28:28] and they're looking to see who's going
[00:28:29] to sign up here. Thank you for sending
[00:28:31] my oracle code to me. My my wife bought
[00:28:33] the app, and I'm amazed at the whole
[00:28:35] thing. My blessings hit home so many
[00:28:37] times. And I know God can can know me so
[00:28:41] well. My scripture witness and the
[00:28:43] calling he has given me are too much for
[00:28:46] me to take in so quickly. I'm looking
[00:28:48] forward to studying these things out
[00:28:49] until I fully understand every word and
[00:28:51] make them a part of me. Uh anyways, and
[00:28:53] then they're booked and then they're
[00:28:54] they're coming to Adam on top of this.
[00:28:57] >> That's awesome. Let let me read this
[00:28:58] one.
[00:28:59] >> Yes.
[00:29:00] >> Go ahead. Go with what you say.
[00:29:01] No, I I I'm just saying too, sign up for
[00:29:04] for Nauvoo, solemn Assembly, Adamand
[00:29:08] September 19th through the 22nd. We had
[00:29:10] more signups today. I'm really excited
[00:29:12] about that.
[00:29:13] >> Okay, so I need to just read this one
[00:29:16] because in case anybody is knocking the
[00:29:19] idea about your reference to the book of
[00:29:22] remembrance, here is a testimony. Uh God
[00:29:25] is reminding me of who I am and why I am
[00:29:29] here in this time. I am one of his
[00:29:32] servants. I feel
[00:29:34] >> happy and brave. He is with me. He is
[00:29:37] always has been. Thank you again. God
[00:29:40] bless. I'd say this is a testimony of
[00:29:43] the book of remembrance. Absolutely
[00:29:45] >> love it. Okay, we just had
[00:29:49] >> Oh,
[00:29:49] >> our friend Elgen pop in here. I'm gonna
[00:29:53] bring him. I'm gonna bring Oh, there he
[00:29:54] is. There he is. Let's go. Let's go. Uh
[00:29:58] let's go this view. Okay. Now, Jim,
[00:30:02] uh welcome to the live stream. Uh you
[00:30:05] have been lock step in the Oracle code,
[00:30:08] searching the Oracle code. Um
[00:30:12] you know, going through it, you see
[00:30:14] patterns.
[00:30:16] Now, now we have the app. So the app
[00:30:18] makes it way easier because before you
[00:30:20] and I were having to do all of this by
[00:30:22] hand.
[00:30:24] >> Yep.
[00:30:26] >> So tell everybody your thoughts, your
[00:30:29] experience with this code.
[00:30:32] >> Well, you guys can hear me, right?
[00:30:34] >> Yep.
[00:30:34] >> Yeah.
[00:30:35] >> Okay. Um, so I went and pulled off the
[00:30:40] birthright blessing. Then I pulled off
[00:30:42] the scripture
[00:30:45] uh witness and then pulled all the
[00:30:47] scriptures off. And of course you know
[00:30:50] me, I went and documented everything
[00:30:52] before you had the ability to download
[00:30:55] it all. Um and so I went read through
[00:30:59] both my birthright blessing and there
[00:31:02] were a bunch of things in there that
[00:31:04] were mentioned in my patriarchal
[00:31:05] blessing. Um the scripture witnesses and
[00:31:09] the scriptures. There were scriptures in
[00:31:12] there that I have personally been sent
[00:31:14] to
[00:31:16] various different times in the over the
[00:31:18] last six, seven months. Um, and they
[00:31:22] were there and they related to things
[00:31:25] like receiving an inheritance,
[00:31:28] um, some timeline things,
[00:31:32] uh, etc. So, there is definitely
[00:31:36] something going on
[00:31:38] with this code. Um, one of the things I
[00:31:42] I've I've talked to a couple people. I
[00:31:44] think one of the big things is is
[00:31:46] numbers are a universal language.
[00:31:48] >> Totally.
[00:31:49] >> Um, I'm a I'm a total sci-fi nerd and if
[00:31:52] anybody's ever watched Stargate SG1,
[00:31:54] they talk about that the numbers, the
[00:31:58] elements, they're all a code. They're
[00:31:59] they're all universal. And so anything
[00:32:02] that's tied to an uh your date directly
[00:32:05] will be echoed from your your birthday
[00:32:08] because it's it's that's the code. It's
[00:32:10] numbers.
[00:32:11] >> It's the one thing we knew that none of
[00:32:13] us would forget. We'd always always
[00:32:15] always remember the day we were born.
[00:32:19] And that is the first part of the
[00:32:21] remembrance. Okay, I'm going to bring on
[00:32:23] my friend Christian Blake. He and I have
[00:32:25] been texting Christian Blake, the man,
[00:32:28] the myth, the legend. Welcome to the
[00:32:30] Zion Media podcast. We're going to
[00:32:32] actually have Christian on uh the show.
[00:32:35] He's done some work with Styometry, The
[00:32:38] Book of the NEM, and Comparing Voices.
[00:32:41] Stud. Awesome. He's got an amazing
[00:32:43] presentation, so stay tuned for him. But
[00:32:45] Christian, welcome to Zion Media. Um
[00:32:48] you're way better looking than I thought
[00:32:50] you'd be, by the way. Um I discounted
[00:32:52] your looks because you had an Android,
[00:32:54] so I you know, I have to repent for
[00:32:56] that. Um, but tell us a little bit about
[00:32:59] your experience as you've gotten into
[00:33:01] the Oracle code. You seem to see
[00:33:03] patterns and see things. Uh, tell me
[00:33:05] your thoughts.
[00:33:08] Yeah. So, uh before the Oracle code app
[00:33:12] dropped, I uh knew about the uh stuff
[00:33:17] you dropped with, uh with like the uh
[00:33:20] let's see, the birth day of the year and
[00:33:23] looking up like in the scriptures on
[00:33:25] that page. And so that was my first
[00:33:30] experience especially in the Old
[00:33:32] Testament seeing like oh this is
[00:33:33] something that uh I was not expecting to
[00:33:37] line up with something that I knew from
[00:33:40] the revelation I had received around
[00:33:43] receiving my own patriarchal blessing
[00:33:45] that that would
[00:33:48] you know line up with something in my
[00:33:49] own life. And then uh the Oracle code
[00:33:52] app dropped and uh I figured out that
[00:33:56] another scripture in Matthew 13 with the
[00:33:59] uh what is that the sewer parable and uh
[00:34:04] >> Christ is talking about the
[00:34:07] reason why he's got the why he speaks in
[00:34:10] parables. And that happened to be one of
[00:34:12] my
[00:34:14] one of the scriptures in a previous
[00:34:16] podcast you guys had that you guys
[00:34:18] talked about. um that really changed my
[00:34:21] mind about a few things and it happened
[00:34:23] to be on my oracle code um list and then
[00:34:28] so yeah
[00:34:29] >> that's happened and uh I gave my wife
[00:34:32] her
[00:34:34] uh birthright blessing and scriptural
[00:34:37] witness uh for Mother's Day this last
[00:34:39] week and she's a pretty uh starch
[00:34:43] skeptic about things like this and so I
[00:34:45] kind of had to ease my way into it and
[00:34:48] then I gave it to her and uh in her own
[00:34:50] words she was like this is kind of
[00:34:52] eerily
[00:34:55] I don't know familiar to her she said
[00:34:57] there's a few things that match her own
[00:34:59] patriarchal blessing and
[00:35:02] kind of got her thinking and you know
[00:35:05] the gears working in her mind about it
[00:35:08] um so it sparked some interest a little
[00:35:11] bit in her as well
[00:35:13] >> that's great that's great and and a lot
[00:35:15] of people are skeptical right I mean I
[00:35:17] mean Who would have thought? Now we have
[00:35:20] to understand this is a strange work.
[00:35:22] Everybody out there, you need to say
[00:35:24] this is a strange work. The scriptures
[00:35:25] call it a strange work. Strange work.
[00:35:27] Strange act. So um if it comes in this
[00:35:31] strange way, then you know, oh it must
[00:35:34] be part of the strange work. Strange
[00:35:35] act. Any other things you got Christian?
[00:35:37] Uh and what can you tell everybody as
[00:35:39] we're getting ready to we're recording
[00:35:40] your podcast pretty soon, right? Do we
[00:35:42] have a we have we set up a date yet to
[00:35:44] record or we're working on that?
[00:35:47] Yeah, it should be Wednesday morning.
[00:35:49] So, yeah, in a few days.
[00:35:50] >> Wednesday morning. We're going to record
[00:35:51] in a few days. Give everybody a little
[00:35:53] preview of what we're going to be
[00:35:54] talking about.
[00:35:57] >> Um,
[00:35:58] >> and the work you've been doing.
[00:36:01] >> Sure. Yeah. So, I started reading the
[00:36:05] Nenha record and realized with my
[00:36:09] statistical background that we've got uh
[00:36:13] two voices, Moroni and Samuel the
[00:36:15] Lammonite, that cross between the Book
[00:36:17] of Mormon and the Nemenha record. And if
[00:36:22] anybody is familiar with
[00:36:25] the stalometry at all, there's several
[00:36:27] other podcasts over the last 5 10 years
[00:36:29] that have talked about the 28 distinct
[00:36:32] voices in the Book of Mormon and how
[00:36:35] that just testifies to Joseph Smith just
[00:36:39] not coming up with it on his own. And so
[00:36:42] I applied the same type of test to the
[00:36:45] Nemenha record and the voices of Moroni
[00:36:48] and Samuel the Lammonite. And it
[00:36:50] actually backs up pretty well with this
[00:36:54] being authentic.
[00:36:56] >> Yeah, I'm excited. And the stuff that
[00:36:58] you sent me, I was I was blown away. Um
[00:37:01] like you can't make this stuff up. And
[00:37:04] now that we have AI, we can figure it
[00:37:06] out. Is this the same Moroni? Is this
[00:37:08] the same Moroni in the Book of Mormon?
[00:37:09] The same Moroni in the Nemenha? Uh and
[00:37:12] if the voices match, um then I'd say the
[00:37:16] glove fits. And so, um, anyways, I'm
[00:37:19] excited for that podcast. So, anyways,
[00:37:21] that'll be really cool. Okay. Um, any
[00:37:24] other thoughts? Anybody have any other
[00:37:26] thoughts as it relates to Oracle code,
[00:37:27] your experience? And I don't want to
[00:37:29] keep this to be a long podcast because
[00:37:30] we have another video that's dropping at
[00:37:32] 8:30, but what do you got? Uh, Jim.
[00:37:34] >> Okay. So, one thing you guys need to
[00:37:36] learn is to figure out how to use your
[00:37:38] Oracle code to figure things out in your
[00:37:40] life. Um, part of my Oracle code, my
[00:37:44] numbers help me figure out why I'm
[00:37:47] moving to Southern Alberta, where I'm
[00:37:49] moving to Southern Alberta, and my
[00:37:50] numbers all fit. It's kind of crazy.
[00:37:55] >> Yeah. So, so understanding how it works,
[00:37:59] >> using those numbers, they're they're
[00:38:01] kind of like a road map. Um, they really
[00:38:03] are.
[00:38:04] >> Ready for this? So from where I live, I
[00:38:08] take a there's a big highway that goes
[00:38:10] south. And if I take the actual name and
[00:38:12] use what's called the Pythagorean
[00:38:14] numerology process where numbers or the
[00:38:16] letters are one to nine and then it
[00:38:19] repeats. So one to nine is uh A to I and
[00:38:22] then J to whatever and it keeps going
[00:38:24] through the
[00:38:25] >> So that highway is number you take the
[00:38:29] name and it reduces to the number eight
[00:38:31] which is my first number. Then off of
[00:38:33] that highway there's a highway five.
[00:38:36] that sends me down to a town that I'm
[00:38:39] going to move to in the summer. And
[00:38:41] number five is my life path.
[00:38:43] >> It's your second number five.
[00:38:45] >> Then the town I'm moving into, and I use
[00:38:47] that that same thing I did with the the
[00:38:49] other highway. That adds to five. So it
[00:38:52] tells me that's my life path. That's
[00:38:54] exactly where I'm supposed to go. And I
[00:38:55] was figuring this out before I figured
[00:38:57] out the numbers, but it's like, well,
[00:38:59] that confirmed that for me. So yeah,
[00:39:01] it's kind of crazy. And a lot of what
[00:39:03] the oracle code does is is confirm
[00:39:06] things. I mean, that's that's part of
[00:39:07] what it does for people is it just it
[00:39:09] confirms things that you may have
[00:39:11] already known. So, anyways, really cool.
[00:39:15] Thanks uh you both you guys for jumping
[00:39:17] in. Greg, what do you got?
[00:39:19] >> One little scriptural reference in Moses
[00:39:21] one that might be fun for everybody is
[00:39:23] uh it's talking about the creation and
[00:39:25] by the word of my power have I created
[00:39:27] them. That's in 32. And worlds without
[00:39:29] number have I created. That's verse 33.
[00:39:32] And then and the first man of all men
[00:39:35] I've called Adam. That's verse 34. And
[00:39:38] then 35 goes into but only an account of
[00:39:43] this earth. And then at the end of the
[00:39:46] verse 35, it says, and of course it was
[00:39:50] talking about innumerable worlds and
[00:39:51] everything, but it says, "But all things
[00:39:53] are numbered unto me, for they are mine.
[00:39:56] For they are mine and I know them.
[00:40:00] So, numbers. H.
[00:40:05] >> God is using numbers. No question. Okay.
[00:40:08] And we just got another sign up here.
[00:40:11] Uh, taking our total to 243, which is my
[00:40:16] number, uh, in a different order. I'm
[00:40:18] 234. So, uh, thank you for buo Rio475.
[00:40:25] Appreciate that. Uh, happy to have you.
[00:40:28] excited to have you as a lifetime uh
[00:40:31] member, as a lifetime subscriber. So
[00:40:33] again, we are um going to be adding more
[00:40:36] and more songs to Zion Media Music. I
[00:40:39] hope you tune in to that. Um there's
[00:40:41] some there's some amazing songs uh on
[00:40:44] there that we've collected over the past
[00:40:46] couple years that we've been making
[00:40:47] songs. Um, and uh, listen, if if you if
[00:40:52] we made you a song and you're like,
[00:40:54] "Hey, somebody we made somebody a song
[00:40:56] called Bridge of Peace. April made that
[00:40:58] song for them." And they're like, "Hey,
[00:41:00] can my song get on there?" I listed I
[00:41:01] was like, "April, that's a banger." We
[00:41:03] posted that one as a new release
[00:41:04] yesterday. So, um, check out the the
[00:41:07] Zion music. There are so many things for
[00:41:10] you to study and to read and to do. Um,
[00:41:13] I did make some updates today. When you
[00:41:16] do your sacred bond, and I I really hope
[00:41:18] that you do, you go to your oracle code,
[00:41:20] oracle report, you go to the sacred bond
[00:41:23] section, and you can see your
[00:41:26] relationship and how it works with
[00:41:28] somebody, but now you can send it to
[00:41:30] them. So, if you run it, you can now
[00:41:33] send a full report to the person that
[00:41:35] you ran the sacred bond on. So, you can
[00:41:37] you can share it with them. So, um I
[00:41:40] hope you're also using this to decode
[00:41:42] another soul and show people their their
[00:41:44] clue package. And we have a lot of
[00:41:46] people that are getting uh birthright
[00:41:48] blessings for other people. I think
[00:41:50] that's just a great gift. So grateful
[00:41:52] for you, Christian, for uh sharing that
[00:41:54] with your wife and and doing that.
[00:41:56] That's super super cool. Okay. Um I
[00:42:00] don't have anything else other than I'm
[00:42:02] super excited. Uh Jim can kind of talk a
[00:42:06] little bit about what it's been like.
[00:42:07] Jim is literally he he keeps track of
[00:42:10] everybody's stuff on on all the chats.
[00:42:13] He has folders for every single person.
[00:42:16] Anything that they've posted, received,
[00:42:18] he keeps a folder. Um he's got a big
[00:42:21] folder for me. I've been sending stuff
[00:42:22] to him and he's been organizing all of
[00:42:25] this uh the book of the servant. U so
[00:42:28] I'm excited to to finally go ahead and
[00:42:31] put it out there for people to read. I
[00:42:33] think uh in the book of the servant,
[00:42:35] you're going to find uh things that
[00:42:37] you're like, "Oh, I had a question about
[00:42:39] that." And and I just took those
[00:42:41] questions to the Lord. What do you got,
[00:42:44] Jim?
[00:42:45] >> So, I'm going to say this, too. Um so,
[00:42:48] you know, I've been working with you
[00:42:49] with that probably over the last year
[00:42:51] and a half.
[00:42:52] >> Yep. And uh when we were in our I was in
[00:42:55] the other group and you would you would
[00:42:56] post something from from the book of the
[00:42:59] servant
[00:43:01] usually a week a month a couple months
[00:43:05] earlier. I'd already figured that out.
[00:43:07] >> So so there is you know you're always
[00:43:10] referring to the root system right it's
[00:43:12] >> y
[00:43:13] >> we're accessing the same source which is
[00:43:15] our father through the holy ghost. And
[00:43:18] when we are as a little child seeking
[00:43:22] understanding,
[00:43:24] putting aside the false traditions of
[00:43:26] our fathers, as as Nephi talks about,
[00:43:29] it's all through the scriptures. We need
[00:43:30] to be open-minded. We need to let the
[00:43:32] spirit actually work with us and not be
[00:43:34] stuck in a box. And so I' I've had that
[00:43:37] happen to me so many times. I will learn
[00:43:39] something and it's like, "Oh," and then
[00:43:40] Shane sends something and it's like,
[00:43:41] "Oh, okay. Well, there's a second
[00:43:42] witness. I'm not crazy. I'm I'm I'm
[00:43:45] getting things that that I'm supposed to
[00:43:46] be getting." So,
[00:43:47] >> and and I had uh another dear friend,
[00:43:50] Christina, um she asked if she could I
[00:43:53] sent I would send like little chunks of
[00:43:55] it and she just said, "Can I read
[00:43:56] everything?" And I'm like, "Sure, buckle
[00:43:58] in. Here you go." I send it to her and
[00:44:00] she was just like, "This confirms so
[00:44:03] many things that I've received as well."
[00:44:05] And so when when we're all getting the
[00:44:08] same thing and I'm getting this stuff
[00:44:10] 2015, 2016, you know, I'm getting this
[00:44:12] stuff and now people are like, "I'm
[00:44:15] getting that too." one, it helps me. I'm
[00:44:17] like, "Oh, good. I'm I'm glad that
[00:44:18] you're getting the same thing that that
[00:44:20] I'm getting because truly in the mouth
[00:44:22] of two or three witnesses shall every
[00:44:24] word be established." So, I'm really
[00:44:26] excited to to share this stuff. Um, now
[00:44:29] is the time for the servants to be
[00:44:31] gathered. I'm telling you right now, uh,
[00:44:34] the strange work is happening. It's
[00:44:36] going down. Um, the Lord is
[00:44:39] orchestrating things and I'm telling you
[00:44:41] right now, he's hastening his work. Um
[00:44:44] there are things that couldn't be done
[00:44:47] even 30 days ago that I'm able to do
[00:44:50] today. Um and the technology that that
[00:44:54] is coming to this earth, the information
[00:44:57] that is flowing through this earth. Um
[00:44:59] there's a podcast, I don't know if we'll
[00:45:01] drop it this week, uh but a series that
[00:45:03] MacGyver is doing uh with Brun Kimble.
[00:45:06] Um they have discovered that there's
[00:45:09] over five million what what was it Greg?
[00:45:12] 5 million words or five million
[00:45:14] >> yeah pages. Um Glenn Kimell said when he
[00:45:19] was alive that he has discovered
[00:45:22] uncovered throughout the world over five
[00:45:26] million pages about Jesus Christ. And
[00:45:30] Braun his nephew he said
[00:45:34] I don't know if that passes the sniff
[00:45:36] test. But as he started digging in, he
[00:45:40] says now it's way more than 5 million.
[00:45:45] Way more.
[00:45:46] >> Yeah.
[00:45:46] >> And the more he disco digs, the more he
[00:45:49] finds.
[00:45:50] >> And and that information is coming to
[00:45:54] the earth. And um
[00:45:56] >> as you know, in the book of the Nim,
[00:45:58] that's just volume one. Volume two is
[00:46:01] going to include a lot more and a lot of
[00:46:04] stuff that um nobody's ever seen before.
[00:46:07] And if you haven't already checked this
[00:46:09] out, uh hit me up. Happy to send it to
[00:46:11] you. Send an email to um
[00:46:15] email@ziondia.com
[00:46:17] or sorry, emailstreaming.com
[00:46:20] or you can send an email to
[00:46:23] april@zianstreaming.com.
[00:46:25] We have the book of Melkisedc. If you
[00:46:27] want to check out the book of Melkisedc,
[00:46:29] it's one of the books that was given to
[00:46:31] me by John. Um you can you can request
[00:46:34] it. We have it in digital form, but it
[00:46:37] will be included in volume two uh of
[00:46:40] what gets released um that Jim is
[00:46:43] helping put together. Um and it will be
[00:46:46] volume two uh the the rest of the NEM.
[00:46:50] Um, I'm I'm also and I should disclose
[00:46:52] this. Um, I'm going to be taking uh
[00:46:57] Philip Landis. Uh, he's claimed that he
[00:47:00] is has some court proceeding. I I've not
[00:47:02] been served with anything. He's trying
[00:47:04] to claim that he has a copyright on
[00:47:06] God's word of the book of the NEM. And
[00:47:09] um we uh friend of mine's building an
[00:47:13] app called Seir and said, "Hey, we'd
[00:47:15] really like to be able to put this on
[00:47:17] here. I know I don't necessarily have to
[00:47:19] get your peri per permission but wanted
[00:47:21] to reach out and he just said no you
[00:47:23] can't put it on there. So he is um you
[00:47:26] know trying to stop uh this book from
[00:47:30] going forth while he's charging $100 uh
[00:47:34] for his book. So Philip Landis um I'm
[00:47:38] speaking to you. Um, we are we have
[00:47:41] hired a an attorney. Um, and we are
[00:47:45] going to go ahead and um figure out what
[00:47:49] we need to do. Uh, you do not own a
[00:47:51] copyright on this. Uh, the version we
[00:47:53] have, you did not author. Um, you have
[00:47:56] been on my show, on my podcast, and you
[00:47:59] have said that there are other
[00:48:00] translations out there, and I have you
[00:48:02] on record saying that. And so I am happy
[00:48:05] to go to battle with you over uh your
[00:48:09] supposed copyright. Um that I don't know
[00:48:12] how you could have a copyright on
[00:48:14] something that you translated unless you
[00:48:17] just made it up and it's a work of
[00:48:18] fiction, which I don't believe that it
[00:48:20] is. And um I was really hopeful that we
[00:48:23] could figure something out where we
[00:48:24] could work together to just get the
[00:48:26] information out there. All I all I want
[00:48:28] the desire of my heart is for people to
[00:48:31] have this word and to have this
[00:48:33] information because it's so powerful. It
[00:48:36] has caused me to be a better disciple of
[00:48:37] Jesus Christ. It has caused me to be a
[00:48:39] better husband, a better father, a
[00:48:41] better man, a better person. Um and and
[00:48:44] I love the book of the NM. I think it's
[00:48:47] an amazing record. I think it it teaches
[00:48:49] things um that we need for this day. And
[00:48:54] I hate to burst Philip Landis' bubble,
[00:48:56] but he's not the one that was talked
[00:48:59] about that was supposed to bring this
[00:49:01] book forward. Um, he did a good job in
[00:49:04] bringing it forward when he did. That
[00:49:06] way, nobody can claim that it was AI
[00:49:08] that wrote it. Um, so I appreciate his
[00:49:11] efforts and his work, but he sucked at
[00:49:13] getting that book out. The fact that I
[00:49:15] had never heard about it until John gave
[00:49:17] it to me in 2024 tells me how bad Philip
[00:49:20] Landis sucked at bringing that record
[00:49:22] forward. Um, so let let the big boys do
[00:49:26] the job to to get the book going.
[00:49:28] Appreciate you know what you have done.
[00:49:30] Um, but I don't appreciate what you are
[00:49:33] doing by not allowing this work to move
[00:49:37] forward. You are hindering God's work.
[00:49:39] And uh, as you know, Phil, God will not
[00:49:42] be mocked. So um, I would be very
[00:49:46] careful as you move forward um, by not
[00:49:49] allowing this. And um my backers, my
[00:49:53] donors have a lot of money and uh we
[00:49:57] will figure out a way to get this book
[00:49:59] out and uh clear you out of the path so
[00:50:03] we can make sure that people have more
[00:50:05] of God's word. So with that being said,
[00:50:08] that's part of my grand announcement.
[00:50:10] Just uh wanted people to know that it
[00:50:13] it's it's time for this work to roll
[00:50:15] forward. Again, I'm grateful that that
[00:50:18] God has really put it on my heart and
[00:50:20] he's been putting it on my heart for the
[00:50:22] past year and I've been reluctant to to
[00:50:24] really go full bobore in on a lot of
[00:50:27] these things because I already know
[00:50:29] what's going to happen. There's going to
[00:50:31] be a lot of people who their lives are
[00:50:33] going to be transformed and changed
[00:50:35] through the work that we're doing. But
[00:50:37] I'm also going to end up with people
[00:50:39] that are going to post on Facebook
[00:50:41] saying that I tried to sacrifice my son
[00:50:43] or whatever craziness people say. People
[00:50:46] say that I I drug people. People say the
[00:50:49] craziest stuff. Uh they
[00:50:51] >> are you trying to start your own church?
[00:50:53] >> Oh, there's a good one. Just for the
[00:50:55] record so everybody knows, I will never
[00:50:58] start a church. I don't believe in the
[00:51:01] concept of you know the guy said, "Oh,
[00:51:03] you want religion? Do you listen? In the
[00:51:05] terrestrial order, the concept of
[00:51:07] religion doesn't exist. Is there a
[00:51:08] church of the firstborn? You bet there
[00:51:10] is. But it's not a religion. Like,
[00:51:12] religion is corrupt. I don't I don't buy
[00:51:15] into this religion. I don't want
[00:51:17] religion. And the last thing I would
[00:51:19] ever do is start a church. And God knows
[00:51:21] that. Um I am not starting a church. But
[00:51:25] what I will start is a movement. a
[00:51:28] movement for a regulation of the church
[00:51:31] of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
[00:51:33] because I believe that that is the true
[00:51:35] church restored on the earth in this
[00:51:37] tstial realm and through that church a
[00:51:40] great restoration will continue to go
[00:51:42] forth after the great regulation comes
[00:51:45] upon that church and I believe that that
[00:51:48] regulation is upon us. In fact, I have a
[00:51:51] uh in one of these things in the book of
[00:51:52] the servant, um I received a revelation
[00:51:55] that the church is no longer under their
[00:51:57] condemnation. So, now would be a great
[00:51:59] time for the regulation to begin now
[00:52:01] that they're not under condemnation. At
[00:52:03] least that's what the Lord gave me about
[00:52:05] the church being under condemnation. Um
[00:52:08] we'll see if uh the prophets get that
[00:52:11] same word from the Lord that they're no
[00:52:13] longer under condemnation. Um, but I'm
[00:52:16] grateful. I'm grateful for the Church of
[00:52:17] Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Um, I
[00:52:20] got a message the other day uh started
[00:52:22] uh crying in the office and uh it was a
[00:52:26] message from a young man uh 22 years
[00:52:28] old, watches Zion Media uh through the
[00:52:31] podcast uh got active in the church and
[00:52:35] uh when he sent me that text message, he
[00:52:36] said, "I check into the MTC tomorrow
[00:52:39] because of your program and what you've
[00:52:41] been able to do." So for me that's like
[00:52:43] that's what it's all about. Uh I love
[00:52:45] the gospel of Jesus Christ and I love
[00:52:47] the restored church.
[00:52:48] >> I I want to comment too the testimony we
[00:52:51] were referring to earlier uh the the
[00:52:55] Brett and his wife that came in and and
[00:52:58] shared their Oracle code with us. And uh
[00:53:01] I just have to say cuz while you guys
[00:53:03] were talking, she took me to the side
[00:53:06] and she told me after I'd posted I'm
[00:53:10] going to probably cry, man. after I
[00:53:12] posted the videos um about the wheat and
[00:53:15] the tears and I still said that you
[00:53:19] still need to go to church and that you
[00:53:22] like she had she wasn't going to church
[00:53:26] at that time and she chose to go to
[00:53:29] church and I think that that was
[00:53:31] probably the first time I'd had someone
[00:53:33] share testimony with me like that that
[00:53:35] even though I'm calling out tears in the
[00:53:38] church I'd said that you still need to
[00:53:41] be in the church and and she started she
[00:53:45] got dressed and went to church and I'm
[00:53:48] just blown away. So, thank you. Um
[00:53:52] >> yeah, now let me clarify. I don't
[00:53:55] believe in the religions of man. I don't
[00:53:58] believe in these these these constructs,
[00:54:00] these even Satan said, "Oh, you want
[00:54:03] religion, do you?" Um
[00:54:06] I religion as as it's currently
[00:54:09] constructed, the way man has it
[00:54:12] constructed, I don't believe in that. Uh
[00:54:14] I believe in
[00:54:17] the religion of God and I believe that's
[00:54:20] different than the religion of man. So
[00:54:22] let me be clear on that. I don't want
[00:54:24] people taking me out of context. I I
[00:54:26] believe in the religion of God. I do not
[00:54:28] believe in the religion of man. I do not
[00:54:31] believe in the institution of man. I do
[00:54:33] not believe in the corporation of man,
[00:54:36] but I believe in the institution of God.
[00:54:39] And um in the institution of God, there
[00:54:42] are no poor among them. In the
[00:54:43] institution of God, there um are no
[00:54:48] gadens. In the institution of God,
[00:54:52] things are in order. And let me remind
[00:54:55] everybody, things aren't in order.
[00:54:59] The scriptures are clear on that. things
[00:55:01] need to be set into order. And why would
[00:55:05] they need to be set in order if they
[00:55:06] were already in order? They're not in
[00:55:08] order. That's okay. That doesn't mean
[00:55:10] that you you don't go things aren't in
[00:55:12] order in America, and I'm not moving to
[00:55:14] Japan because things aren't in order
[00:55:16] here. I still love America, and I want
[00:55:18] to do everything I can to help set
[00:55:20] things in order. And and that's where
[00:55:22] I'm at um with uh the religion of man.
[00:55:26] I'd like to see it become the religion
[00:55:28] of God. But here's what I do believe. I
[00:55:31] do believe that the Church of Jesus
[00:55:33] Christ of Latter-day Saints is the true
[00:55:36] church. This is uh Brett and Miriam
[00:55:39] right there. Uh got their oracle. We we
[00:55:41] were able to give Brett uh an awesome
[00:55:43] blessing. Came in and and and we were
[00:55:46] able to give them a blessing and and
[00:55:47] it's kind of cool. She's 44% Ephraim.
[00:55:50] He's 33% Ephraim. And they're just kind
[00:55:53] of uh they love it. They're they're such
[00:55:55] she's probably watching right now.
[00:55:56] Miriam, what's up? Love you. Um, Scott,
[00:55:59] love you, too. Um, awesome people. We're
[00:56:01] going to see him at Bear Lake. So,
[00:56:03] >> this is who I was talking about, too.
[00:56:05] Um, it was Miriam that set me aside.
[00:56:07] Well, and and now she's going to church.
[00:56:10] And I'm just so thrilled about that. But
[00:56:12] I agree with you, Shane, that that uh
[00:56:16] it's funny because when I when I uh when
[00:56:19] I came into this world and was learning
[00:56:21] from my mom, I I really got a vibe that
[00:56:24] God has something greater in store for
[00:56:27] us. uh and for the faithful. So, uh and
[00:56:30] it's probably not going to be a
[00:56:32] religion.
[00:56:33] >> Yeah. I not I I just that that phrase
[00:56:37] where Satan in the temple's like, "Oh,
[00:56:39] you want religion, do you? Oh, there
[00:56:41] will be many willing to preach to you
[00:56:42] the philosophies of men mingled with
[00:56:44] scripture." And I think the religions of
[00:56:46] the world, that's what they do. They
[00:56:48] they preach the philosophies of men
[00:56:50] mingled with scripture. And I don't
[00:56:52] believe in that. In God's religion, you
[00:56:54] get you get the truth. And and I think I
[00:56:57] think the truth truly will set us free.
[00:56:59] And I believe we're living in a time
[00:57:00] where that truth where everything's
[00:57:03] going to be revealed. DNC 121, nothing
[00:57:06] shall be withheld. We're living in that
[00:57:08] time. And I'm so pumped. I'm so excited
[00:57:11] for that time. Uh I can't wait for those
[00:57:14] who have been commanded to Terry. And
[00:57:17] and I think it's important that
[00:57:18] everybody understand this. There's more
[00:57:20] than just John. And there's more than
[00:57:22] just the three Nephites that have been
[00:57:24] commanded to Terry. There are many, many
[00:57:27] people on this earth that have been
[00:57:30] commanded to Terry. I have interacted
[00:57:32] with them on many occasions. I interact
[00:57:35] with them on occasion even now. And I
[00:57:38] know that there is a great work that is
[00:57:41] happening. And for those of us that
[00:57:43] chose to go through the veil and forget
[00:57:44] everything, thank goodness for those
[00:57:46] that have been commanded to terry
[00:57:48] because they are those from the north
[00:57:50] country spoken of in DNC 133 that will
[00:57:53] come forth and that will assist us in
[00:57:56] this great and glorious work that is uh
[00:58:00] that is happening right now. So uh
[00:58:03] Christian dude, nice to meet you in
[00:58:05] person um or at least over the over the
[00:58:08] airwaves. Um, excited for our podcast on
[00:58:11] Wednesday. Jim, always a pleasure. And
[00:58:13] by the way, Jim, I feel like we still
[00:58:15] have some more episodes to record. So, I
[00:58:17] feel like we didn't get to everything.
[00:58:19] So, I need to get you back again.
[00:58:22] >> I just got to put them together
[00:58:24] >> be
[00:58:24] >> because here's the deal. Here's the
[00:58:25] deal. And I and I need to be straight up
[00:58:27] with everybody. Everybody's like, "Hey,
[00:58:29] you know, you're doing this episode with
[00:58:30] James Cows. I love James. James, good
[00:58:32] friend of mine. I don't believe in James
[00:58:35] Gowzin's timeline. I just don't I don't
[00:58:37] see it. But if you want to know a
[00:58:39] timeline I do believe in and I do agree
[00:58:42] with 1 million%. It's Jim Jim Wetsteing
[00:58:46] Elgen Lightbringer. He's got what I
[00:58:48] believe is the best timeline out there.
[00:58:51] And if you haven't watched those
[00:58:52] timeline videos on Zion Media, go check
[00:58:54] him out. Um I believe that he's got it
[00:58:56] dialed in and the draconian year thing
[00:58:58] is dialed. And just so you guys know,
[00:59:00] MacGyver's up there. He he knows this,
[00:59:03] but when I started looking for people, I
[00:59:06] was looking for certain birth dates. I
[00:59:08] was looking for August 2nd and I'm gonna
[00:59:11] count Jim because he's August 3rd, you
[00:59:13] know, and who knows, he might have been
[00:59:14] actually August 2nd. And depending on
[00:59:16] how you look at it, he I'm going to
[00:59:18] count him as my August 2nd, even though
[00:59:20] he's August 3rd, but I was also looking
[00:59:22] for a 320.
[00:59:24] Um, now I'm born August uh 21st and I'm
[00:59:29] still looking for an April 8th. April
[00:59:32] 8th. Are you out there? Um, so what do
[00:59:35] all of those dates have in common? There
[00:59:38] are four major eclipses. The first one
[00:59:41] is August 21st. Guess when the last one
[00:59:44] over in Egypt is? That's right, on Greg
[00:59:46] Maccgyver's birthday on 320 of 2034,
[00:59:49] actually. Um, so, uh, still looking for
[00:59:53] April 8th. April 8th, if you're out
[00:59:54] there, hit me up. If you're watching
[00:59:55] this and you got an April 8th birthday,
[00:59:57] like, hit me up. We need to talk. Um,
[01:00:00] oh, look, we just we're getting lots of
[01:00:03] lots of people coming in. Thank you.
[01:00:04] Thank you. Thank you. These lifetime
[01:00:05] memberships are they're going to be
[01:00:07] done. So, you're going to want to get in
[01:00:08] on the lifetime. It's a onetime payment.
[01:00:10] You don't have to pay anymore and you're
[01:00:11] going to get access to everything and
[01:00:13] discounts on whatever inapp purchases
[01:00:15] there are. So, um, but April 8th and I
[01:00:19] found kind of the August 2nd, but we
[01:00:20] could use another August 2nd. Uh, but
[01:00:22] Jim Jim's counting I'm counting Jim as
[01:00:24] my August 2nd. So, anyways, those are
[01:00:26] the the eclipses and I think those
[01:00:28] eclipses are meaningful. They're
[01:00:31] meaningful to the timeline. Um, Jim,
[01:00:33] while we got you on here, do you mind
[01:00:35] just explaining the draconian year thing
[01:00:37] for anybody who doesn't know this?
[01:00:39] Because to me, that's the most genius
[01:00:41] thing you've come up with since I've
[01:00:43] known you. I I didn't come up with it. I
[01:00:46] got it from Christian Homestead. That
[01:00:48] was the one of the very first things I
[01:00:50] the spirit told me to learn was that
[01:00:52] plus the sun cycles plus moon cycles.
[01:00:56] Okay. So, the draconian years, I can't
[01:00:59] remember exactly what it's calculating,
[01:01:02] but it calculates where the sun starts
[01:01:06] in position in at a certain point and
[01:01:09] then it goes back around to that exact
[01:01:11] position. I believe it was it is what it
[01:01:13] is. So it's 346 days instead of 365
[01:01:19] or whatever it is we usually use. So if
[01:01:23] you use that calculation and you start
[01:01:27] on
[01:01:29] August 21st, 2017, and you calculate to
[01:01:34] the day, 2422 days, which is exactly
[01:01:38] seven draconic years, that puts you to
[01:01:40] April 8th, 2024, which was the next
[01:01:43] great
[01:01:45] eclipse over the US. Now there was a
[01:01:49] it's called an annular eclipse that
[01:01:51] happened um in
[01:01:54] 2023
[01:01:56] which created the alf or the letter the
[01:01:59] first letter of the Hebrew alphabet was
[01:02:01] drawn over top of America.
[01:02:04] Then you go to 2027 on August 3rd or
[01:02:07] sorry, August 2nd. There's another
[01:02:11] eclipse which is exactly 3 and a half
[01:02:15] draconic years to the day. So that's
[01:02:17] 1,211 days from the April 8th and 2024.
[01:02:22] That puts you to 2027, August 2nd. Then
[01:02:25] you go another seven years exactly that
[01:02:27] are seven draconic years. That puts you
[01:02:29] to MacGyver's birthday, May 20th, 2034.
[01:02:33] What are the odds of that lining up
[01:02:35] perfectly?
[01:02:36] >> Scriptures say what what's the point of
[01:02:38] the skies, the moon, the stars? They're
[01:02:40] all meant to tell time. They're all
[01:02:42] supposed to be signs to us to watch.
[01:02:45] Who's actually watching them? I know uh
[01:02:48] there's a few. Christian Poppy,
[01:02:50] Christian Fire Poppy does it. Uh Alli
[01:02:53] Ducet does it. There's people up that
[01:02:55] are members that are watching and if
[01:02:57] you're not watching, you're not paying
[01:02:59] attention. You probably should start.
[01:03:01] >> Yeah, totally. All right. Thanks, Jim.
[01:03:03] All right, guys. Thank you again. And
[01:03:05] listen, we're going to be we're probably
[01:03:07] already at about 250, so get your
[01:03:10] lifetime membership. There's somebody
[01:03:11] who asked, "Hey, I bought an Oracle code
[01:03:13] song. Uh I got my oracle code in the
[01:03:16] past." Uh for those of you that have
[01:03:18] done that, there's just so much more on
[01:03:20] the app. And so, go to the app, get
[01:03:23] signed up. You'll get two more songs uh
[01:03:26] with your sign up. Uh and you'll have
[01:03:28] access to so much so much more. We've
[01:03:30] had a lot of people who had received
[01:03:32] their their oracle code and their song
[01:03:35] um sign up for for the app. So anyways,
[01:03:39] we have we have spent a lot of time and
[01:03:43] resources developing this and I'm
[01:03:45] telling you right now we have an app
[01:03:47] that's coming out June 1st. It's called
[01:03:49] Seir and it is literally the Kamora
[01:03:52] Library app on steroids. Like awesome.
[01:03:57] like I'm so excited to be able to
[01:03:59] release that. Um and it again it's all
[01:04:04] of this is designed to help prepare a
[01:04:06] people to gather the servants um and and
[01:04:10] also to help you remember uh to give you
[01:04:14] access to information that can help
[01:04:18] cause you to say, "Oh, I didn't think of
[01:04:19] that. Oh, you know, this triggers
[01:04:21] something in me." And that's the whole
[01:04:23] goal. I mean, I would say that that my
[01:04:25] primary job here is number one to help
[01:04:28] people remember and number two is to
[01:04:30] create that spark. I tell people I'm
[01:04:32] like a spark. Um, and so if I can just
[01:04:34] create that little spark in you that
[01:04:36] causes you to then light on fire, then
[01:04:39] I'm doing my job uh down here. So, uh,
[01:04:43] anyways, Jim, Christian, thank you guys
[01:04:46] so much for joining us. David the Lion
[01:04:48] Douglas and Gregory Allen Macgyver born
[01:04:51] on March 20th, 1961.
[01:04:54] Still looking pretty good. Not a lot of
[01:04:56] gray hair on that guy. He might be
[01:04:59] translating. Um, so you never know with
[01:05:02] that guy, Greg Macgyver. And maybe he's
[01:05:04] actually a translated being and you just
[01:05:06] didn't know it. And he's been kind of
[01:05:08] operating undercover. Lots of
[01:05:10] interesting things happening around
[01:05:11] here. These uh these terrestrial beings,
[01:05:14] they just look like regular people. You
[01:05:16] wouldn't even know them if you saw them
[01:05:17] in the grocery store, but they know who
[01:05:19] you are. Uh, and they are watching out
[01:05:22] for you. So, anyways, thank you all for
[01:05:24] tuning in. Great live stream. We had 100
[01:05:27] plus people. I think our peak we had 111
[01:05:29] people on. We're at 101 right now.
[01:05:31] That's the perfect time to stop because
[01:05:33] at 101, it's time for the servants to be
[01:05:36] gathered, the strength of his house, and
[01:05:38] the redemption of Zion to begin. So,
[01:05:41] thank you all for tuning in. Stay tuned
[01:05:44] um for there's an episode, right? Are we
[01:05:47] good, Dave? 8:30 we can drop it. We're
[01:05:50] going to drop uh one of the chapters,
[01:05:53] the first chapter of the book of the
[01:05:54] servant. It's going to drop tonight um
[01:05:56] with a video. So, hope you enjoy. I hope
[01:06:00] this ignites something in you. Let the
[01:06:02] baptism of fire burn and sanctify you so
[01:06:05] that the Holy Ghost can dwell within
[01:06:07] you. I pray we'll see you guys all next
[01:06:10] time.
[01:06:11] >> Amen.

[BeNotDeceived]

Re: Zion Media, next phase
https://ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.p ... 6#p1630486

Section 23: Lifting of Condemnation (Aug 2, 2025)
The Atlanta Temple Visit: Following the Servant's obedient visit to the Atlanta temple, the Lord declares that the historical condemnation placed upon the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (per D&C 84) is officially removed.

The Arising of Zion: With the burden lifted, the church is cleared to rise, the gathering of the remnant has begun, and Zion will begin to develop.

The condemnation placed on the Church in Doctrine and Covenants 84 (specifically verses 54–58) is one of the most significant and sobering passages in modern scripture. Received by Joseph Smith in September 1832, the revelation directly chastises the early Saints—and by extension, the entire corporate and individual body of the Church.

The passage reads:

And your minds in times past have been darkened because of unbelief, and because you have treated lightly the things you have received—which vanity and unbelief have brought the whole church under condemnation. And this condemnation resteth upon the children of Zion, even all. And they shall remain under this condemnation until they repent and remember the new covenant, even the Book of Mormon..." (D&C 84:54–57)

When broken down into the structural anatomy of this condemnation, the underlying causes, mechanics, and consequences become clear:

1. The Real Cause: "Treating Lightly" the Word

The Lord does not accuse the Saints of outright rebellion or fighting against the truth. Instead, the condemnation stems from vanity, unbelief, and treating sacred things lightly.

To treat something lightly means to treat it carelessly, to view it as commonplace, or to give it lip service without allowing it to fundamentally alter one's life.

Specifically, the Saints are condemned for neglecting the new covenant, even the Book of Mormon and the "former commandments" (the Bible and early revelations). They were willing "to say" but failed "to do" according to what was written.

2. The Consequence: A Darkened Mind

The immediate spiritual consequence of this neglect is that "your minds in times past have been darkened." In a theological context, when a people treat higher spiritual light with complacency, that light is withdrawn. The result is a collective dimming of spiritual sight, a lack of deep discernment, and a vulnerability to the "bondage of sin" and false traditions.

3. The Warning: The Scourge and Judgment

The revelation takes a severe turn in verse 58, warning that if the Church does not lift this condemnation through repentance, "there remaineth a scourge and judgment to be poured out upon the children of Zion." The Lord asks sharply, "For shall the children of the kingdom pollute my holy land? Verily, I say unto you, Nay." (v. 59)

Historically, just a year after this revelation was given, the Saints were violently driven out of Jackson County, Missouri (Zion)—an event many early members viewed as the literal fulfillment of the "scourge and judgment" threatened for polluting the holy land through their contentions and unbelief.

---Has the condemnation ever been lifted?

This remains a point of deep discussion among scriptural researchers and various Latter-day Saint factions:

The Mainstream LDS Perspective: In 1986, President Ezra Taft Benson famously used these exact verses to alarm the global church. He stated that the Church was still under this condemnation because it had neglected the Book of Mormon, treating it more like an artifact than a daily covenant. He initiated a massive re-emphasis of the book. While some subsequent leaders have suggested that the collective effort to study the book softened the condemnation, the text itself states that the condition is only lifted when the people "do according to that which I have written"—bringing forth fruit meet for the Father's kingdom.

The Esoteric / Restorationist Perspective: Independent restoration groups and individuals who track the "dimmed light" of the current age argue that the corporate church never fully lifted the condemnation. In this view, by failing to establish Zion, failing to build the temple in that generation (D&C 84:4-5), and letting their minds remain darkened by corporate and worldly philosophies, the institutional church allowed a "scourge" to permanently alter its trajectory. This links directly to the idea that the "ancient order" was lost or polluted and that a scattered remnant must now find their way back to the raw, unadulterated covenant.

The Underlying Mechanism: D&C 84 shows that God will not allow His highest, holiest things to be treated casually. If a people are given a new covenant (like the Book of Mormon) but only use it "to say" rather than "to do," the heavens close, a spiritual fog (darkened minds) rolls in, and the true ancient order is obscured until a systematic repentance takes place.

2627 transition https://base38.now62.com/ 2jg8ps encodes the largest municipality in the Grand Valley reversed. 15738 places 57 before 38.

Reversals are interesting as spy cuts 17.5 and 47.5 pieces of electrical conduit for rolling wire shelf contraption.

[9^10^ABFH]

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[BeNotDeceived]

Re: Zion Media, next phase
https://ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.p ... 9#p1624389

Yeah, I don't really understand how someone at Shane's level of devotion to the word of God has been so out of tune to fall for Zionism. It boggles the mind.

Iff brother Shane desires real discussion; he may respond

to: https://ldsfreedomforum.com/search.php?keywords=15738

38 represents Christ and 57 represents the Davidic Servant,

but his user id is reverse order.

https://slogbog.com/viewtopic.php?p=4894#p4894

48 = Warning

Re: Polygamy Dilemma
https://ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.p ... 3#p1636823

I have your 3rd option. Joseph Smith is a true Prophet that made a mistake and was deceived. This mistake cost him his life and put the church in a condemnation and repentance phase. The church in order to get out of condemnation will have to offer sacrifice for up to 7 generations. This mistake cost Josephs life to be cut short. He knew he was going to die. God let him know he messed up and he tried to cease its practice but also knew as did God if he admitted he messed up it would discredit the Book of Mormon and all other revelation he received. Click the link below. This video proves in the book of revelation that Joseph Smith left his first love and was called to repentance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8Re2jhCN-o

Re: Polygamy Dilemma
https://ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.p ... 4#p1448444

This is the best 3rd option offered so far...
At what point can we reasonably conclude that the Church is so far off the right path that an apostacy has taken place? A major point of the Church of Jesus Christ of LDS is that it was a restoration of a church that started with the priesthood keys but lost the authority to exercise those keys. If we are really going to make the comparison to King Noah and the Church of his time, then we'd have to conclude that the Catholic church still has the keys. So if the Pope were to repent and get enlightened by the Spirit of God, or God himself, to again teach proper doctrine and administer the ordinances in the proper way, could we say his authority is restored to exercise the keys he already has? Isn't the whole value proposition of the Catholic church that they directly descend from Christ's original Church? They certainly claim authority through Christ and a long line of succession of priesthood.
Can we say that Brigham Young, or one of the prophets that came after him, marked the line between true Church of God exercising his priesthood keys and apostate religion?
If you can resolve this issue for me, I'll add your idea as a third option in my document.
Thanks for your excellent comment.

These are great questions -- that I don't have clear-cut answers to. But when John the Baptist conferred the Aaronic priesthood on Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery, he's quoted as having said, "this shall never be taken again from the earth".

That's an interesting quote to me, because it implies a few things to me --

1. It implies the Aaronic priesthood had been "taken from the earth", seemingly indicating that no other churches at the time had the Aaronic priesthood, which would mean the Catholic church's priesthood line of ordination was a dead/false one, (either through wickedness or through a falsified line of ordination.)
2. It implies that a line of Aaronic priesthood holders would forever be preserved through Joseph Smith's priesthood lines of ordination.
3. It implies to me that the Melchizedek priesthood might not be so lucky as to "never be taken again from the earth', as we have no promise of that being said when it was conferred on Joseph Smith.

You could argue either that the Catholic church was without the Aaronic & Melchizedek priesthood due to wickedness, or that it was due to not having received the proper priesthood ordination they claim to have had to begin with. Whichever one you argue affects what your idea of “apostasy” is. Is it a black/white state, like, ‘Either you have the priesthood or you don’t, regardless of what bad behaviour is happening in the church’? or is it a spectrum, like, ‘It’s only if you act righteously the Lord will accept your keys and your ordinations.’ The quote from John the Baptist implies that nobody else in any other church at one point had it, done deal, but also says that “It will never be taken from the earth again.” Does that mean that those ordained will never be killed off again, or does that mean there will always be a righteous line?

One other aspect that can be given thought is the idea of it being *possible* to have valid priesthood ordination and keys outside of only “one” church. I think that Joseph Smith III’s priesthood keys were valid, and I think the sections of the RLDS D&C that he added reflect that, especially RLDS D&C 116:1. I really think him to have been inspired by his priesthood. I’ve also witnessed first-hand many very real experiences of priesthood power amongst the men in my LDS family and my LDS ward. I even once received a very, very, inspired priesthood blessing from an LDS priesthood holder who I know to have not been living temple-worthy or honoring his covenants at the time – and so I believe priesthood power (in certain cases) extends beyond personal righteousness in circumstances where the Lord is intending to get a message to someone, or to bless them in a way He wishes to. I’m a faithful LDS member, and I really, truly believe there is priesthood power within the LDS church -- but I’m also doubtful at this point that being excommunicated from the LDS church means a man no longer holds the priesthood. I think we can in theory be part of different institutionalized churches but both churches have men ordained to the priesthood. Joseph and Oliver were ordained to the priesthood before their institutionalized church had ever been formed. Alma went rogue and started baptizing people all on his own without any approval from any higher-ups.

This though, of course, says nothing about the Melchizedek priesthood, so that’s a whole ‘nother can of worms.

ThirtyEight comments.

Reading doctor Stone’s book and Micheal Sherwin’s posts about Sidney Rigdon proved especially interesting when spy learned where William Bickerton was on the 85th anniversary of Smithmas. His writings about polygamy were spot on too.