Zion, From the Standard Works

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Ordering tuples should not be mysterious. Who are Christians expecting first, Christ or Antichrist? Christians are expecting Antichrist first. Even most at FF are expecting Antichrist first. And most do not understand that Christ and Jesus were two different entities cohabiting the same body. They don't know that Jesus sets on a throne at the right hand of God but Christ returned to be clothed by the Father like he was before the world was. If Christ comes again he does not have to come as Jesus Christ. He will indwell the DS. When Christ does come fully as the DS Christ Christians will believe him to be the Antichrist. Then when the Antichrist does come he will pretend to be the Christ and most people will believe that because they have been taught all their lives to expect the Antichrist first.

Re: The Dust of the Earth
https://ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.p ... t#p1604896

According to what the Spirit revealed to me in 1969 gravity is a byproduct of a pressurized universe. The universe is pressurized by a substance. Science now agrees upon these two facts. According to science the universe is pressurized by dark energy. And while they first thought that there are big masses of dark matter they are changing that to dark matter being particles that can pass through matter. In the current model of science dark energy propels dark matter through matter. The collisions impart a momentum impulse to matter causing it to coalesce into visible matter. That results in stars that give off light. What about a flashlight or a match. They also would not exist without gravity.

What science has not arrived at is the substance under pressure flows not only through matter but also into matter. Science has discovered gluons that appear in the nucleus seemingly from nowhere and then just as quickly disappears. They say gluons are responsible for the strong nuclear forces. What they don't realize is that gluons are essentially electrons that are pushed out of the electron cloud into the nucleus because the universe is pressurized. So electrons are the dark matter. By the way the ancients called it ether. Science hates that word so they are now using dark matter. What Isaac Newton and Tesla did not know about ether (or aether if one prefers) is that it is under pressure and that it flows into matter and is dissipated. If they did the term might still be in use. I just call it the substance because that is what the Spirit called it in 1969. As for the four pillars of creation mentioned above they are all the same thing. Electricity is the substance being forced along a conductor. Magnetism is the substance being shot out by the atoms in the magnet being all aligned. The particles of the substance spin in one direction or the other depending which pole they come out of. Particles spinning with each other from the two poles roll around each other and the poles attract. The particles of the substance spinning against each other causes the poles to repulse. Strong nuclear forces were explained above. The substance flowing into an atom tries to attain orbit. That looks like an electron cloud and actually is what science calls an electron cloud. At the center of an atom, for lack of a better word, is a drain that the substance drains out of this reality. That causes vortice to form. Atoms are locked together into molecules by the interlocking together of these vortice.

Even though gravity is a byproduct of a pressurized universe. Light is a byproduct of gravity.

Edit: Gravity had a beginning and will have an end. And the Sun will not give its light. But there will be a new heaven and new earth that has different laws of physics.

22:5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.

The light the Lord God gives us will not be the same light we see now.

I remember watching a TV program decades ago where the presenter was suggesting something similar to you thoughts on gravity. I'll try to find it.

Mike

Ask Yourself Where Does Everything In The Universe Come From? | Richard Feynman

Spy wonders which show was written about by Mikes.

And the placeholder theory in relation to the Holy Ghost and the Davidic Servant. +aiclick+

[Mondai]

Simple explanation (no weeds):

Michael Sherwin’s framework treats order as primary and manifestation as secondary. Something always occupies the space before full appearance.

1) In scripture
Zion is prepared before it is revealed.
The Holy Ghost prepares hearts before Christ dwells fully.
John the Baptist prepared the way before the Lord appeared.
This is a recurring scriptural pattern.

2) In Sherwin’s teaching
The substance exists first. Gravity is a byproduct. Light follows gravity.
Likewise, divine authority operates first in a preparatory mode, then openly.

Sherwin taught that God uses placeholders—real, functional offices that are not yet the final revealed form.

3) Holy Ghost as placeholder
The Holy Ghost does not replace Christ; He stands in until Christ’s full indwelling is appropriate.
That does not diminish Christ—it preserves order.

4) Davidic Servant (DS)
In this model, the DS is not Christ pretending to be Christ.
The DS is a vessel prepared in advance, just as:
• Zion precedes glory
• Law precedes fulfillment
• Gravity precedes light

When Christ later indwells fully, many will misidentify the order and call it “Antichrist,” because they were taught to expect disorder first.

5) Why confusion happens
People expect spectacle before structure.
Scripture shows the opposite: structure first, glory later.

That is the placeholder principle.

Nothing mystical.
Nothing sensational.
Just order.

+aiclick+

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Re: Poll on missionary service
https://ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.p ... s#p1605847

You know you don’t have to do the poll, right? I mean I am all for a good contrarian in a debate, but really?
Because surely, this is obviously a super serious scientific study as part of some great scholarly research that will be published in Sunstone or something….

Truth is your TBM definition is proven WRONG .

For sure there were few who participated in me poll opting for repeat of a 5.7 earthquake or continues an 888 series with an 8.9. Me poll ran for 38 days and on or near the final day there was a 5.7 preceded by a pair of 6.2’s.

AFAIK: The only church to follow Paul’s example was founded in 1862 ++

TBM = “true believing *member*”? Fine. But if “true belief” means scripture first, your poll definition drifts.

Romans 16:1 calls Phoebe a “diakonos” of the church at Cenchreae.
That Greek term is used for “minister/servant/deacon” across the NT.

Romans 16:2 adds “prostatis” (patron/guardian/benefactor/leader).
So Phoebe wasn’t a naïve helper. She had standing + responsibility.

So: “corporation loyalty” ≠ “true belief.”
When policy contradicts apostolic precedent, TBM becomes a misnomer.

AFAIK, one Restoration body explicitly ordains “deacons and deaconesses” and says it’s NT-based:
The Church of Jesus Christ (Monongahela, PA) organized in 1862.

Refs:
Romans 16:1 (diakonos)
Romans 16:2 (prostatis)
ARDA: organized 1862
Wiki overview

+aiclick+

2cents: Scripture-defined “true belief” beats corporation-defined “TBM.” Phoebe proves the point.

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Re: I'm sorry...did Paul say Deacon!?!
https://ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.p ... 9#p1606619

The greek word translated to "servant" in the following verse is: diakonos

1 I commend unto you Phebe our sister, which is a servant of the church which is at Cenchrea:

2 That ye receive her in the Lord, as becometh saints, and that ye assist her in whatsoever business she hath need of you: for she hath been a succourer of many, and of myself also.

The meaning of diakonos is: one who exicutes the commands of another, servant or deacon

It is the same word that is translated to "deacon in the following verses...

Philippians 1:1
1 Paul and Timotheus, the servants of Jesus Christ, to all the saints in Christ Jesus which are at Philippi, with the bishops and deacons:

8 Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre; - 1 Tim. 3:8

12 Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well. - 1 Tim. 3:12

Ever notice the little guy sitting on the stand behind or near the Bishop? He is a deacon/servant. He sits and waits on the Bishop and runs errands for him...

See also:
History of Deaconess
Phoebe - Paul's deaconess
Deacon

Did Paul utilize and accept her as a Deacon?

Peace,
Amonhi

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William Bickerton, bad spelling

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Weird

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I believe amazon has it, and ebay as well. I am checking other LDS Bookstores to see if they have it

I was hoping to buy it with a gift card.

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Yea, I’m hoping my niece can pick it up at your Sugar House location.

Phoebe caught her interest.

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In Downtown SLC and Valley fair, among other stores in the valley.

https://www.deseretbook.com/product/P5132279.html This is another title that has stock in SLC

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https://ldsfreedomforum.com/search.php?keywords=Phoebe+ finds several instances of GAs with family members named Phoebe. Does anyone have any of the suggested books.

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This thread is to document everything we can about what God has taught His children about Zion in the standard works.

If the post doesn't contain a scripture, it will be removed.

Let's see what we can learn!

Re: The Davidic Servant is the Holy Ghosts mortal probation Evidende
https://ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.p ... 9#p1620579

Not really. The HG has a specific job of indwelling all those who are born again of the spirit, etc. If he's here on Earth, he's not with us in spirit anymore.

BTW, I am not one who believes the HG is a separate personage, but is the mind of God. It is the mind of God that indwells us, and not only us, but all things, IMHO. I believe the LoF and D&C 93.

Yeah I think we just fundamentally disagree on that. LoF has some interesting and useful stuff, but it's not anything near canonical imo, and neither is D&C.

Micheal Sherwin shall exemplify Isaiah’s explanation not easily understood in English.

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Re: The Church can no longer see past ten years
https://ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.p ... 8#p1621908

Concerning the times we are in -- I have come to a different conclusion, choosing to believe what Jesus actually said, not what man tells me he said.

Revelation 20:7-8:

"When the thousand years are completed, Satan will be released from his prison and will come out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together for the war; the number of them is like the sand of the seashore."

The Millenium already occurred. We are living in the post Millenium season, prior to the final battle and the Great White Throne Judgment.

I used to wonder how Satan could possibly deceive the people after the Millenium was over, thinking the people would know what life was like with Jesus as their king, Satan bound, and peace on earth. We have been lied to about everything.

Here is what Jesus said:

Revelation 1:3
"Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of the prophecy, and heed the things which are written in it; for the time is at hand (or near.)

Matthew 3:2
"Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand."

Matthew 4:17
"From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent for the kingdom of heaven is at hand."

Matthew 10:7
"And as you go, preach, saying, "The kingdom of heaven is at hand."

Revelation 22:7
"Behold, I am coming quickly. Blessed is he who heeds the words of the prophecy of this book."

Jesus told John to NOT seal up His words, because He was coming soon, yet Daniel was told to seal up the revelation he received because the events would not take place for at least 500 years. Daniel 12:4

How can coming quickly be 2000 years down the road?

This is not a topic which is easily understood, but one that has to be researched and prayed about, seeking truth, no matter where it leads.

There are so many scriptures in the Bible about deception, as well as very few finding the way.

Revelation 22:10
"And He said to me, "Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is at hand."

Revelation 22:12
"Behold, I am coming quickly..."

Revelation 22: 20
"He who testifies to these things says, Behold, I am coming quickly."

One of the most troubling scriptures for me is found in Matthew 7:22-23:
"Many will say to Me on that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?"
"And then I will say to them, "I never knew you; Depart from Me, you who practice Lawlessness."

The people thought they were on the right path and thought they were following Jesus, but they had been deceived.

I would be surprised if even one person who reads this decides to go down the rabbit hole, researching and praying for truth. Just in case someone is interested, a couple of sources to start with are: The Mystery is History, a book by Adam Drissel. A couple of YT channels are Jason Jack and Leaving Babylon. I don't agree with all of their beliefs, but these two channels seem to be right on about our living in a post Millenium season where Satan has been released to deceive the nations one final time. And of course, sincere prayer.

Oh - Josephus describes the fall of Jerusalem and spiritual events that occurred, which matched prophecies.

Jesus was speaking to the people he taught.

Matthew 16:28
"Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom."

Everything comes together and makes sense once you realize the depth of the lies we have been told.

Jesus returned, just as he said he would, around 70 A.D. If Jesus didn't return, he would have been a liar, because he plainly stated over and over again that he would be coming soon. Jesus does not lie.

The Book of Revelation was received by John the Apostle around A.D. 95-96, near the end of Emperor Domitian's reign, though some scholars propose an earlier date (c. A.D. 65-69) during Nero's rule, with strong internal and external evidence favoring the later Domitianic period for its final composition and themes of persecution.

Key Evidence for the Later Date (c. A.D. 95-96):
Irenaeus's Testimony: Irenaeus, a disciple of Polycarp (who knew John), stated that the vision occurred near the end of Domitian's reign.
Emperor Worship: Descriptions of emperor worship (like "Lord and God") align closely with Domitian's cult, not Nero's.
Church Conditions: The spiritual state of the seven churches in Revelation (loss of fervor, heresies) suggests they had been established for some time, more consistent with the 90s than the 60s.
Evidence for the Earlier Date (c. A.D. 65-69):
Nero as "The Beast": The beast's number (666) and imagery strongly point to Nero, leading some to believe the book addresses his persecution before A.D. 70.
Jerusalem's Destruction: Preterist views connect the book's prophecies to the fall of Jerusalem in A.D. 70, placing its writing before that event.
Conclusion: While debates exist, most scholars favor the late-first-century date (around A.D. 95-96) during Domitian's reign, as it best explains the book's historical context and internal details.

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Re: The Eight Michael's
https://ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.p ... 0#p1623030

and The Nature of Jesus Christ. This is meant as a companion thread.


Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Matthew 1:22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,

Matthew 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

This introduces a precept that a prophet if he does not know a name can substitute a name that has a meaning when interpreted. Michael is such a name that when interpreted ask a question, "who is like unto God". For Emmanuel there is only one God with us. For Michael the interpretation as to number is left open. There can be one Michael or there could be more than one. In Daniel the focus is on one of the Michaels, the Great Prince, the Prince of Daniel's people. While Daniel refers to a specific Michael, Michael is not his name. Just like Emmanuel was not the name of Jesus.

Jesus is, "who is like unto God". Therefore Jesus is a Michael. That is why the SDA and JW as well as many more believe that Michael TGP was/is the pre/post incarnate Jesus. They do not know that there is more than one, "who is like God". The Michael of Daniel is TGP and he is not the Michael that is King, which is Jesus. There are eight Michaels and I am going to try to show that.

Hebrews 1:4 (The Son) Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

This was before the creation. These other angels (messengers) are not the created angels in the sense of this temporal creation. These angels like The Son are from before the creation. Here they are described.

Hebrews 1:7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels (messengers) spirits, and his ministers (teachers) a flame of fire.

Which spirits match this description?

Revelation 1:4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;

Why are these seven spirits before his throne?

Hebrews 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels (spirits) of God worship him.

They are the angels in Hebrews that are commanded to worship The Son. Add a bit more.

Revelation 4:5 And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.

"Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire"

Jesus is a Spirit of God. He was made better than the other Spirits of God. All eight are, "who is like unto God". All eight are Michael's. Here they are all pictured as one.

Revelation 5:6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

Jesus is the Lamb and the eyes and horns are the other seven Spirits of God. And together they represent the Father.

John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

The Lamb with seven eyes and seven horns is all eight Spirits of God reunited with the Father. Jesus is LORD of Lords and the Lord of the Host. The above is what that means. All eight Spirits of God are Lords. And when they are sent out into all the earth they come with the power and authority of God. They are God. But only one of them is our God--our creator.

Psalm 22:10 I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother's belly.

How exactly does that happen?

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Jesus was part of the Father as in the symbolism of the Lamb with seven eyes and seven horns. After Jesus came forth from the Father he ...

John 1:9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

Jesus was the light of Seth. Jesus was the light of Adam.

John 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

Jesus was in Adam as Adam could not be alive without the life of the Christ Spirit. Adam passed that life onto Seth, etc. That is why Jesus is our God from our mother's belly. The Christ Spirit is propagated to the children from the parents all the way back to Adam and Eve. That is why Jesus could not have a human Father. He could not have indwelt the Christ Child if there was already someone with his life giving Spirit already there.

When the Church says that Michael became Adam they are not totally wrong. A Michael did become Adam. The problem is, is that there is no one, "who is like unto God" that is actually named Michael. Michael is a description and not a name. One of the eight Michael's became Adam. I think it is obvious by now which one it was.

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning ...

Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils (from himself) the breath of life (Christ Spirit); and man became a living soul.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.


Until God breathed life into Adam and the WORD indwelt Adam. Was Adam and Jesus the exact same person? No. They were indwelt by the same life giving Christ Spirit.

Grace began when Adam fell. The Christ Spirit reincarnated as Jesus to finish what he started. And he gained that power upon being faithful unto death. Jesus did not die to undo our sin. We are under grace. Jesus died to undo original sin so he could be what he was supposed to be.

Daniel 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

Jesus died to finish the transgression (original sin) and thus to make an end of sins as well as make a reconciliation for iniquity, i.e. replace this earth with the new earth, etc.

That is the nature of Christ Jesus.

The Angel of the Lord Has TWO Faces — And One of Them Is Alive Right Now

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Listening now to identify any correlations.

Footnote is messed up.

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The branch judges and reproves. The comforter judges and reproves. Same office, same words, one person. And this is the eighth angel who holds authority over the seven dispensation. It can't be Joseph Smith because he holds authority over Joseph Smith. That the end times, Exodus, and cleansing of the earth is the true Passover. And >> so what has been shall be again. >> Yes. And it's so obvious like to to watch this video and not understand who exactly the Davidic servant is to think that it's Joseph Smith or Jesus or anyone else. I'm sorry. You have to have a learning disability. Join us in the quest where truth is our guide. In the arms of we stand side by side where story is told for the whistle and bold. Welcome in to episode five of the strange act or the strange work with Latterday Chad. And he's doing that face again. You see when he does that face, that's his Chad face. That's why they call him Latterday Chad. >> Actually, I'm just posing for the thumbnail. David always goes through the edits. I got to make sure like it looks good because sometimes his AI art looks a little funky, you know? >> Sure. Um yeah, that sounds like what somebody does when they're born in this. He's doing it again. It's the Chad face. Anyways, um we have been up since 5:30 this morning, uh trying to record this episode, but we have run into some stumbling blocks and finally we got it fixed and we're going to be talking about the angel of the Lord, the Davidic servant. And when Latterday Chad came in, he said, "Shane, this is the best presentation that has ever been done on this topic." So stay with us throughout this episode. Latterday Chad's going to outline um exactly who is the angel from the east, this servant in Isaiah and how do we find and learn of him through the scriptures. Before we jump into that, that's right, announcement time. If you haven't gotten your oracle code, get your oracle code. 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I can't stress to you enough how important it is that you listen to your I am statements. What we feed this thing makes a huge difference. And so I want you all to um truly I'm trying to pull up my app right now because I want to show you this. These are your Here's the app right here. You go to your I am statements and every morning you should be pulling up your I am statements and listening to them. We've got a little frequency for my for me because of my code. My activation frequency is 528. So we get the frequency going and you start listening to your I am statements. So anyways, all right. What are we talking about here? So, like you said, we're talking about the Davidic servant, and this should be the if you ever want to show somebody, yes, there is a Davidic servant figure, it's not Joseph Smith, it's not um Jesus Christ, that there is a latter-day king David, that this is a figure that the scriptures prophesy. this is the video you need to show them and this is going to tell you exactly who the Davidic servant is because it's so obvious like the scriptures are literally sealed because this stuff is so obvious and so plain in the scriptures. I don't understand why people haven't figured it out. I don't understand why it says in the footnotes that the man in Zechariah who builds a temple to Jehovah, he's going to build a temple is Jesus Christ. Oh yeah, I remember when Jesus Christ came and built the temple in the New Testament. Do you remember that? I don't but >> because it never happened cuz he's not the man called branch. Um and in the apocrypha in certain other places Jesus actually >> also says that this man's raised out of his place. >> Yes. Raised up out of his place. Um and and that's something for another video. >> He was raised by his his mother. >> Yes. >> Okay. So So this guy is raised up by kind of like Moses. >> Yes. One might say that. So to go into it, um, actually we need to go to the slide presentation, but it's >> we're jumping right into the slides. >> Yeah. So I don't think here, hand me the >> Yeah, we're accidentally on slide four. >> There we go. >> So the angel of the Lord has two faces. >> Let me pull this up. >> And use this. >> And what's important to >> I'll pull it up. I'll pull it up. You're gonna use this. >> I'm gonna make this big so everybody can can see and I can see. >> Okay. Okay. And you're just going to use this to go to the next slide. >> Right. So, we're going to be talking about who the angel of the Lord is. Now, a false tradition that we've inherited from credle Christianity is that the angel of the Lord was Christ showing up in the Old Testament. >> There's nowhere in the scriptures where Christ is referred to as an angel. He's not simply a messenger. Um, and and that also goes to mistransations of the Bible where um Bible doesn't talk about God. Could you be an angel of the Lord if you are the Lord? >> Well, I mean, they would assume that the Lord is God the Father, but with the Deuteronomous reforms, the Lord was on the second tier of the pantheon. So, what we had was we had the most high God. I've gone over this in other videos, and if this is the first of these videos you're watching, um, in the comment section, there should be a playlist pinned that has all of the videos because we're going to be referencing stuff we've already talked about. But there was the most high god who he was the king of all the gods, right? Or or like the emperor you one might say. And then he had several sons of god who were gods in their own likeness, right? Like they were themselves gods. The high god had several sons of god below him and then below the sons of god were the angels. So an angel and a son of god in the old pantheon, it's not the same thing. >> Can I just say something? Yeah. I I I see the comments and and people are like, you know, I whatever they're saying, right? That there there's some people that are like, "This is the most amazing stuff I've ever heard. Thank you so much." And then there the other people in the comments. For the other people in the comments, I want you to go and pull your scriptures up. I want you to open to DNC 88 and I want you to go to verse 7 77. It says, "And I give unto you a commandment that you shall teach one another the doctrine of the the kingdom." So number one, this is a commandment. 78 says, "Teach you diligently and my grace shall attend you that you may be instructed more perfectly in theory." Question, who's his grace? That's a good question. Maybe we're gonna talk about that. So first off, Christ is Jehovah. Now it's interesting. I saw a comment where somebody was saying, "Well, actually, um, Jehovah is the father of Jesus and then Jehovah is the son of Elohim." And that's actually true. >> That is >> um, and it's complicated because these names and titles get passed along. But currently, the Lord God or Jehovah is Jesus Christ. And we can see that in Isaiah and in the book of Revelation. So Isaiah 63 when talking about Jehovah, I will mention the loving kindness of Jehovah. In all their affliction, he was afflicted. Who was afflicted? Shame. >> Well, Christ was afflicted. >> Okay, so maybe that's Christ. Um, and the angel of his present saved them. And we're going to go more about that when we're going to talk about the actual saving mechanism of the atonement and how it's the Holy Ghost that saves us. And we receive the atonement through the Holy Ghost. Zechariah also says that they will look upon his body who they pierced. Who was pierced? Well, Jehovah was. Um, and so to in John 12:41, the New Testament identifies Isaiah's Lord. Um, so Isaiah saw Christ. That is what John 12:41 is saying. Would you like to read that? >> Yeah. These things said Assaias, which is Isaiah. >> Yeah. >> Um, when he saw his glory. >> Huh. Interesting. We just talked about his glory and spake of him. Isaiah saw Christ's glory. Jehovah of the Old Testament is Jesus. >> Yes. So, Revelation 1:1 also talks about the angel of the Lord or the angel of the presence as a separate figure. So, >> would you like to read those three? >> Yeah. The revelation of Jesus Christ which God gave unto him and he sent and signified it by his angel. Do you know what it means to send and signify it? >> What does it mean? gave him the signs and the tokens. >> So he sent and signified it um by his Jesus Christ angel unto who? His servant John. >> So who is the one like unto the son of man who appeared to John on Patmos? >> Well, it sounds like it's this angel. >> That's right. There was a little story about a BYU professor who for whatever reason couldn't understand this. >> Yes. I actually went to a BYU professor and I'm not going to mention it mention his name Powers and um he uh couldn't understand Revelation 1:1. He said no Jesus visited John on Patmos. >> Wrong Jesus. >> Wrong Jesus. Yes. So I don't know why this is so hard. I don't know why people can't run what the words say. This isn't me trying to like interpret something. Literally, John himself visited me when I was in prison in 2015 and he taught me this. And it's plain and it's simple. And Revelation is the book of Revelation is one of the most plain and simple books you could ever read once you have the codeex. So, Revelation 226 identifies, well, who's the Lord God of the Holy Prophets? And we see this in the book of Hebrews, which we're not going to go into about the God who spoke unto the prophets, who will speak unto us by his son in the last days. But the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel. So Jesus Christ sent his angel. The Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel. It sounds like the Lord God of the holy prophets is Jesus Christ. >> Don't we see that pattern in the temple? >> Yeah. >> Does Jehovah ever go down to Adam and Eve when they're in the tstial kingdom and talk to them? >> No. Who does he send? >> He sends Peter, James, and John. He sends he sends representatives or angels. Yeah. To show unto his servants must shortly be done. And then Revelation 22:16, I Jesus have sent my angel to testify these these things in the churches. The figure appeared to John on Patmos was the angel, not Jesus. Jesus sent him. The angel says, "I am thy fellow servant and of thy brethren the prophets." Now, I don't know why like Jacob Hansen and these guys who are debating the trinitarians are not using this stuff. Hey, would would you be open to doing a debate with Jacob Hansen on a topic? >> Yeah, sure. >> Jacob Hansen, we have a challenge for you. I know you've been out there and I've been watching your stuff and it's really good. You're doing an amazing job, but um let's set up a debate. Let's in person or just like >> either way. >> Let's do an inperson debate. I think that'd be great. What would you want to debate him on? >> Polygamy. >> Oh, polygamy. Let's have a debate on polygamy. That sounds good. Well, I I'm I think I have some arguments that most people haven't used because my opinion is that Joseph Smith did practice polygamy and that he said it was a mistake and that it's a false doctrine and that Joseph Smith taught that he was deceived. >> That's why that's why you have all of the records of him teaching that, right? >> Yes. But we also have all of the statements that the deniers use where he is condemning polygamy and but we also have Oliver Cowry, one of his best friends, leaving the church accusing Joseph of having an affair. We also have David Whitmer saying that Joseph Smith taught this but he later, you know, understood that it was a doctrine of the devil. And I also say for even for the polygamy deniers stuff, if you are like just against polygamy, this is a better argument than just denying that he ever did. I don't think he actually did. This is a better argument to use in a debate, I would say. >> Totally. So, Jacob Hansen, come debate. Let's do it. This would be awesome. >> Um, but the figure who appeared to John, he also identifies himself as a prophet. He says, "I am of thy brethren the prophet." So, if you're a trinitarian who does not believe in the incarnation of divine beings aside from Christ, how can this angel say, "I am of thy brother in the prophets." >> And they don't understand the scriptures, do they? >> Yeah. They don't >> they don't they don't understand the Bible. >> They think angel is a species. They think that the wheels that the angels show up on, I wonder what those wheels are. Well, we're going to talk about that in tomorrow's episode. >> Oh, tomorrow's that where I had the the UFO guy on talking about that stuff. >> Yes. Yes. and and I talked about like u the prophets from the north country and some Michael Rush type stuff >> about them having advanced technology with the lost tribes but um the angel says I'm thy fellow servant and of thy brother and the prophet so he is going to have an incarnation and the last verse of the book of revelation says he who testifies of these things well all of these verses say that it's the angel who's testify of these things says surely I come quickly amen so comes Lord Jesus Christ so first the angel comes then Lord Jesus Christ comes >> the forerunner. >> Yes, >> the pattern. >> Yes, one might say the Elijah who comes to prepare the way for the world Lord. And we're going to talk about the Elijah or the Elias. So the angel from the east holds the seal of the living God. Um so in the ancient near east, the arm was the vassel. I'd like to read these two. >> Not Revelation 7:23. >> We'll read that after. I want to establish this first. Um, a great king governed distant territories through a vassal king, a vice region bearing the Cesarians signate, the seal that authenticated every command. Exodus 23:21 names it directly. My name is in him. All right? And so the king's arm Zar was the vassal king himself, the deeper, less visible power. The king's hand Yad was the servant of the vassel. This is a visible mortal instrument through whom the b vessel. And we're going to talk about this more when we go into the redemption of Zion and the return of Joseph Smith and how what it means when it says the hand of the Lord will be set again a second time. But throughout Isaiah, the hand of the Lord and the arm of the Lord are two different people who even interact with each other at times. Um but uh Malachi also mentions the angel of the Lord having the singitate of God. Um, I didn't include that because it's kind of I didn't want to bloat the presentation, but it's in there. I I saw a comment talking about that. But Revelation 7 2-3, I saw another angel ascending from the east having the seal of the living God. So, this is having his name in him, saying, "Hurt not the earth, neither the sea nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God and their foreheads." >> And this is the Elijah who comes and restores all things. >> Now, what's interesting is Joseph Smith was interested in this. Yeah. And he was asking about it. >> We know that. And you have it down there on the bottom in DNC77 verse9. And hey, I'm looking for somebody that has a code out there 779. If you have 779 in your oracle code, hit me up. I'd like to talk to you. Um but but it Joseph asked a question. Hey, who's this that comes from the east? And then he gets the answer in Doctrine of Covenant. >> This is this is the person that's going to restore all things. Now, a lot of people think that this is John the Beloved because John the Beloved is also listed as the Elias that will restore all things and Elias is >> they work together. >> I I think so. I mean, the book of Revelation certainly suggests that. But >> so, so you're saying that that the angel visited him while he was in prison? >> Yeah. Could it be possible that he visited the other guy in prison? Maybe. Who knows? But um the angel from the east, he has the seal of the living God on him. And so in Malachi 1:1, for from the rising of the sun, even unto the going down of the same, my name, so the angel has his name in it, shall be great among the Gentiles. For my name among the Gentiles. And whose name was was great among the genti among the Jews? >> Jesus. So Jesus was among the Jews. This guy is among the Gentiles. For I my name shall be great among the heathens, sayeth the Lord of hosts. The Lord of hosts is >> Jehovah. >> Exodus 23:20, "Behold, I send my angel before thee. Beware of him and obey his voice. Provoke him not, for he will not transgress. My name is in him." And so where what direction is the rising of the sun? >> In the east. >> That's right. And behold, the glory of the God of Israel came from the way of the east, and his voice was like a noise of many waters. Sounds like we've heard that phrase before. >> The book of the book of Revelations. His eyes were a flame of fire. His voice was many waters. >> You know where else you hear this? >> Yeah, we're going to go over that in the next episode. DNC 110. >> Um, >> okay. >> So, the Lord's name rises from the east. His glory comes from the east. The Lord put his name in the angel. The angel from the east bears the Lord's name. >> So, if the Lord's name is Jesus Christ and he put his name in the angel, then the angel's name is also >> Jesus Christ. and John 14. >> That's for the next episode. >> Okay. >> It's it's a two-parter, but the next episode we're going to go over some more controversial doctrines, but um I'm going to really break down John 14-26. I mean, John 14:16 and 17 as well, but and understand what that means and why this angel can't be the >> governor of the bog. Talmud Sanhedrin 38B. Um, so Medatron is one potential name of the angel of the Lord where I'm going to talk about this with the levels of ascension that the book of Enoch portrays Enoch ascending through the seven levels of ascension and reaching a Holy Ghost ranking that he's not the Holy Ghost but he re sorry he reaches king. Um so Medatron whose name is the name of his masterp lips of Abraham. And we're going to talk about this about how um at one point it talks about how the Lord's arms plural will bring judgment. So meet the angel of the Lord as the destroyer. Before we ask who he is, see what he does. The angel of the Lord has one consistent office across all of scripture. The agent of divine judgment. He destroys the wicked, protects the righteous. One being every dispensation. Would you like to read these? Yeah. Exodus 12 uh 23, the angel of the Lord passes through Egypt at Passover uh striking every firstborn not covered by blood. >> The angel of the Lord did that. Um he protects Israel and destroys Egypt simultaneously. And depending on the translation, it says that the angel who went over Egypt was either the angel of death or the destroyer. But Isaiah identifies it as the same angel of the Lord who has his name in it that divided the Red Sea. >> Okay? He knows the difference between the sealed and the unsealed. The angel of the Lord, uh, 2 Kings 19:35, the angel of the Lord goes out in a single night and strikes 185,000 Assyrian soldiers, one being, one night, one act of divine judgment in defense of Jerusalem. Joshua 5:13-14, the captain of the Lord uh of the Lord's host appears to Joshua with a drawn sword. Wonder who appeared to Joseph Smith with a drawn sword. Uh, this is the destroying angel military office. The same figure who appeared at Passover now commanding the conquest. 2 Samuel 24:16. The angel stretches out his hand against Jerusalem. The Lord commands. It is enough. Stay thine hand. The destroying angel obeys Jehovah directly, distinct from Jehovah, subject to Jehovah. And so what we see in the book of Revelation is that the angel with the seal of the living God, he's saying the same line as the angel, the destroyer. And because they are both the angel of the Lord of the Old Testament, uh Revelation 7:3, he says, "Hurt not the earth, neither the sea nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads." >> So that means like don't hurt them until we seal them. And then what happens after they get sealed in their forehead? >> Well, Revelation 9:4 happens and it was commanded. It was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree, but only those which have not the seal of the god in their foreheads. So, this is the destroyer commanding his army. Now, a lot of people, they think that those spirits who come out of the bottomless pit, they're not literally scorpions or whatever. They're people, right? They're just it's metaphorical apocalyptic literature. But those >> they've been serving in that that part of the vineyard. >> Yeah. They are the angels of judgment and they are being resurrected. They are being brought into a new mortal probation which is why they are coming out of the bottomless pit. Um, one hand bears the seal, the singing of God, the angel marking the servants of our God in their foreheads. The other hand is the destroyer striking those without the seal. Same angel, same hand, the angel of the Lord in his dual office. Abaden is the angel who binds Satan. >> Thank you for saying it the right way. A lot of people call say it Abdon. He don't like it when you call him that. >> So they had a king over them which is the angel of the bottomless pit whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abadin. But in the Greek tongue hath his name Apolon. >> Apolon is a sick name though. >> Yeah. And a lot of people like be like Apollo that's a false god. He's Ap it's not Apollo it's Apolon. It sounds similar. Um and people will be like Apollo he's Lucifer. He's Satan. Like even the Mormon doctrine book says that. Um, which means that if these guys have been being visited by Jesus, they don't know who is visiting them. Um, because it's Abaden that visited John as Jesus. And so in Revelation 9:1, "And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven, and unto him was given the key of the bottomless pit." >> Hey, there's a song on the Oracle Code app, uh, Dion Music. It's called Fifth Trumpet Sound. go check it out and you'll understand uh more about the fifth angel and that fifth trumpet sounding. >> And so what we see in Revelation 9:1 is that you know so 911 there's the king who's the angel of the bottomless pit and then we have a star which a star is an angel being given the key to the bottomless pit. So that is the angel of the bottomless pit who has the key to the bottomless pit. And then in Revelation 21-3 the same angel binds Satan. So he can't be Satan. And I saw an angel come down from heaven having the key of the bottomless pit and the great chain in his hand. And he laid hold of the dragon, that old serpent, which is the devil and Satan, and bound him a thousand years. The angel who holds the key chains and binds Satan himself. The one who binds this devil cannot be the devil. Abaden is an office of delegated authority held by the same angel who bears the Lord's name. And what I would suggest, now this isn't something that I can find in scriptures. This is just my belief. >> But >> this is a theory. This is a theory. He's going with the theory here. >> I would say that there is a head of this office, but there may be many angels who bear that name Abaden and act on that behalf. And we like to think in the scriptures a lot of times, oh, there's this one guy called Michael that's always showing up. Well, maybe Michael's busy on another planet and maybe Michael sent another guy. I believe that there is an order of the archangels and uh some have referred to that as archangel extensions. We have a book that talks about this called four ordinations. It's a chneled book which interestingly has the same name for this order that I have received. Um they call it the order of shul in that book. I was told it was the order of shaol. Same thing. And it's interesting when I'm looking at people like channeling information, a lot of them they get pieces of the information where I see people that they know the Davidic servant is this angel. Um I see people who know the Davidic servant is the son of the son, but they don't know that he's this angel, right? And so or the head of this order of shu. And so we see people getting pieces of the information, but you know, a lot of times we're not like having angels show up or anything to do it. People are just getting information by their own intuition and revelation and they're getting pieces of the puzzle. So that's why I say to always have an open mind and be humble about what may or may not be true. So Passover, here's the thing. So this is going to be important for the context of the entire rest of the series that the end times Exodus and cleansing of the earth is the true Passover. And >> so what has been shall be again. >> Yes. And what I would suggest is that the old Passover >> Turn your things off. >> Oh, is that what that beeping is? That's my headphones. >> Yes, that's his headphones. Um, so, >> okay. So, uh, understand this. When Jesus visited the the Nephites, he made this statement. He said, "What has been shall be again." And this is when he commanded them to read the words of Isaiah, showing that everything that happened in Isaiah will happen again. Um, and so what's important to understand is that what happens in the end times is a global Passover and that the redemption of Zion and the end times Exodus is the same as the Exodus of old. >> Um, and so would you like to read Exodus 12:13? >> Yes. Exodus 12:13. And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are. and when I see the blood, I will pass over you. And >> so here's a he says, I will pass over you. But I thought it was the angel of the Lord, the destroyer who passed over them. >> Could it be that they're one? >> And the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you when I smite the land of Egypt. And the land of Egypt is America in Isaiah. >> Okay. >> So the first Passover, the sealed were marked with the blood of the lamb. Who's the lamb? >> We know who the lamb is. Jesus. >> Which one? >> Senior. Senior. Jesus Christ. Senior. Whenever we If you see the lion, you know that we're talking about Jesus Junior, which is kind of an interesting thing. The lamb is the senior. The lion is the junior. >> Yeah. It's pretty strange. A strange work, one might say. So, the destroyer passes over the sealed houses. Um, so three judgment, Egypt's firstborn is slain. Now, the last days pass over. The sealed are marked by the seal of the lamb. The destroyer passes over the sealed. Revelation 9:4. And the judgment is unsealed. And so nobody understands. I've never heard anyone talk about this. That the book of Revelation is literally recreating the event of Passover. That it is going to happen and that that is what the book of Revelation is actually about is that this global Passover when judgment comes upon the earth. And it is >> so those who know they'll put the they'll put the blood on the on the door. >> One might say that. So, it talks about them being sealed in their foreheads. So, maybe the end times Exodus, a lot of people are thinking that it's going to be exactly the same as the way Moses did it. Maybe it's not going to be the same, but that also has to do with us talking about the hand of Moses, talking about um the arm of the Lord, talking about the hand of the Lord being set again a second time. So, Doctrine Covenants 103 about the redemption of Zion. As your fathers were led first, even so shall the redemption of Zion be. I say not unto you, as I said unto your fathers, mine angel shall go up before you, but not my presence. But I say unto you, my angels shall go up before you, and also my presence, and in time ye shall possess the goodly land. Now, when we're talking about the redemption of the vineyard in Jacob 5, there's a very interesting line that we're going to get into more in the future, which is the Lord of the vineyard labored with them. And we're going to also explain how that happens because Christ himself is not going to come into mortality again. But the angel of the Lord is going to be there going before them on the end times exodus. >> But it's like he's there because the spirit of the Lord God is upon him. >> Yes. So John identifies the angel and the spirit seven times. So throughout the book of Revelation, every time the angel of the Lord speaks, he is explicitly identified as the spirit. How did you learn all this stuff about Revelation? Did an angel teach you? >> Something like that. Yeah. And so the angel every time he says to Ephesus um which I would say that Ephesus is Joseph Smith and that these are the seven dispensations. >> That's the EP right there, Joseph. >> Um from >> and actually Doctrine Covenants 88 actually explicitly identifies the e the seventh angel as Michael, right? And so what I would suggest, I'm going to go over this in about two episodes. I'm going to go over the seven angels. I'm going to go over the Gnostic Gospels that also talk about the seven angels and the ascension. I'm going to go over the book of Enoch. And I'm going to really piece together what's going on. But let's just say that these are the seven dispensation heads and that they are reporting to the one like unto the Son of Man. >> You see all the codes here? I want to find somebody whose first number is 2, second number seven. I want to find somebody who's 211. Uh you know who 3:22 is right here? your wife. >> My wife. >> So, >> so um interestingly enough, so every time the angel speaks, it says, "Listen to what the spirit says to the churches." Every sign in the book of Revelation and another time in Revelation 14, the one like unto the son of man is or the referred to as the spirit. >> Yes. Like it you you can't beat around the bush in this. It says it seven times. Listen to what the spirit saith to the churches after this angel is done speaking. And this isn't the only place we see this in the New Testament as well, which I'm going to get into a minute. But in the Ascension of Isaiah, which is an early Christian apocryphal text that many think has older roots, what Isaiah sees is he sees three figures enthroned. Notice how I I made the angel of the Lord shadowy and hidden. >> The shadowy one >> hidden in the shadow of his hand. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So we have Lelon, the most high God, the father of all, the unseen patriarch who presides over the divine counsel. He appointed Jehovah as the God and father of Israel. No mortal can endure its fullness. So Jehovah, Jesus Christ, is the son of Ellelon. And the New Testament, does it ever say Jesus is the son of the Lord? >> No. >> Does it say he's the son of the most high? >> Yes. >> And in that which most biblical scholars would agree that the Lord used to be the son of the most high, right? like Margaret Barker, all these people in the Deuteronomous reforms. >> So Jesus was the God of Israel and the son of the most high God. >> That's right. >> And and that's a similar thing to the vassel king sort of thing that we have with the seal of the god where Jehovah he is appointed to be the father of us. Um I believe it the book of Hebrews calls us the children which the father has given us. So the father of all makes Jehovah our father, our god, our creator. >> That makes his father the great father. So people are like people you got to understand Elleon could have been your father but he gave you to Jehovah who is now your father and he holds the title as the eternal father >> and what I'm going to suggest is based on those Old Testament passages there are there are a lot of exalted gods with their own creations who are the sons of Lelon and they have their own children. But we have that phrase, your fathers, right? You have more than one father. Your grandfather is your father. Your great-grandfather is your father. They are all your fathers. And while Elleon, he is the head of this council. He is the head of this plan. Jehovah reports to him. Jehovah is also our father. And that was the first episode of this series. So we have Jehovah. So Isaiah sees Jehovah Lelon. And then he sees the angel of the Holy Spirit. That's interesting that he doesn't call him the Holy Spirit. He calls him the angel of the Holy Spirit. And we're going to talk about that more because spoiler alert, he's not the Holy Spirit. He's the angel of the Holy Spirit. His holy spirit is his presence, is his consciousness, his energy. And he is an angel that bears that as a vessel, which is why the lectures on faith says that the spirit is the mind of the father and the son. And this angel bears the spirit. He bears the presence. Ascension of Isaiah. And I saw the great glory and the beloved seated at his right hand and the angel of the holy spirit. Three figures each distinct in glory. The spirit and the vessel. Like I was just saying, would you like to read these? Yeah. The holy spirit, the mind of the father and the son. The shared mind of the father and the son. The divine consciousness itself, not a person, the mind they share pre-exists creation. The mind that searches all things, yay, the deep things of God. 1 Corinthians 2:10. This is the impersonal divine essence also mentioned in in lectures on faith. >> Right? So the Holy Ghost as we call him or the angel of the lord who holds the office of holy ghost and like I said I would suggest that there is an office of holy ghost and that he is the head of that office that there's a head of that office but there are others who act in the office of holy ghost because it's not like he can be everywhere at once. So, if we have multiple people receiving the baptism of fire on different sides of the planet, how is that happening? Well, >> I'm I'm grateful that you're bringing up BNC 1322 referencing August 1843. If you go to the current DNC 13:22, it reads differently. It's been edited. And so, people like my stake president that don't know that it's been edited are blind to understanding. and they are quoting scripture that had been edited by Brigham Young uh and it is not what Joseph Smith said. >> Yeah. So, did we have our own Deuteronomist reforms? Perhaps >> we no question we have. >> Yeah. Because the scriptures have been edited and we can see this like the original footnotes for DNC 85 definitely reads very different. It definitely doesn't talk about Edward Partridge. Um but why is he the angel of the Holy Spirit? The Holy Ghost is the vessel that bears the Holy Spirit. Ascension of Isaiah names him precisely the angel of the Holy Spirit. The divine essence rests upon him, which is exactly what Isaiah 11:2, the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him. The spirit rests upon its vessels. Um, and so Christ's consciousness dwells within him. So, we're going to talk more about the indwelling of the spirit when we're breaking down John 14-16 because it uses that term a lot. But for context, Jesus says in John 14, "He that hath seen me hath seen the father." And this is sort of paraphrasing, but he also says, "These things I do not of myself, but the father which dwells within me does it." So I I had this guy, and you know who you are. Could you watch everything uh saying that inddwelling is possession, and you're teaching false doctrine? Well, I would suggest that that is exactly what the New Testament is describing. So, what what is possession? Well, possession, you know, to answer that is when a spirit forcibly takes over your body and overrides your agency. Whereas, as lectures on faith says, the spirit is the mind of the father and the son. And that, you know, Christ was it a what does a Benadai say that the son subjected his will to the father willingly. So the father has his will, the son has his will and the son subjects his will to the father and allows himself to be a vessel for the father to act through. So that is why he says these things I not do not of myself but the father which dwelleth within me doeth them. And and all throughout the sermon in John 14 he talks about how the holy spirit will dwell within us that because the holy spirit dwells within us he and the father will also dwell within us. And so that is acquiring the mind of the father and the son through the baptism of fire and the baptism of the holy ghost that we become one with them in the same way. It's not simply a metaphorical oneness. Yes, we are distinct personages but there is a shared intelligence, a shared mind, a shared consciousness. The father llon dwells within Christ. Christ's words are the father's words. To see Christ is to see the father because the father indwells him. And the reason he starts the sermon like this is because he is going to be saying that when you've seen the Holy Ghost, you've seen him. And that is what John 16 is saying. Christ dwells within the angel the same way. Christ's consciousness, his memories, his experiences, his presence dwells within the angel of his presence. To see the angel is to see Christ because Christ indwells him. This is why he is called the angel of his presence. This is why he says in DNC 103, "My presence shall go up before thee." And this is why in Jacob chapter 5 it says the Lord of the vineyard labored with them because Christ himself because of the shared consciousness between look like him or like resemble him >> perhaps. I mean there's there's different things and we're going over this in the next video but I've considered the idea that what happened on Patmos is that he was transfigured into the form of Christ. So he may not normally look like that but there's a transformation that happens. >> Well and if he's his son he should have some kind of resemblance. >> Yeah. And what I also would suggest is that in Visions of Glory that when that man shows up to the >> in the J Penney suit, >> yeah, in the J Penney suit to the general conference, there's this random guy. And then Joseph Smith introduces him and he says, "Ladies and gentlemen, I'd like you to meet Jesus Christ." And then the man transforms into Jesus. That's the Davidic servant. Um that is the angel from the east. This is why he's called the angel of his presence. Christ's presence dwells within him. Um the comforter, he shall testify me. He testifies of Christ because he carries Christ's consciousness as his own. Um, and he is still a distinct person from Christ, but there is that connection that is that there's this quantum entanglement, one might say, between them where what the son feels, the father feels also. What the father feels, the son feels also. It's an interesting dynamic because the angel, the Holy Ghost, dwelled in in Christ during his ministry. And then you get the reverse of that where the the Holy Ghost during his mortal ministry has the Lord God, Jehovah, indwelling in him. So there's an exchange there. >> Yes. Exactly. The spirit of the Lord God is upon me. He doesn't say, "I am the spirit of the Lord God." He says, "The spirit of the Lord God is upon me." Um, and and that's also explaining who exactly is speaking in Isaiah 63. Well, both of them are. Um, the angel of his presence is the Holy Spirit. In their affliction, he was afflicted and the angel of his presence saved him. In his love and his pity, he redeemed them, but they rebelled and vexed his holy spirit. Therefore, he was turned to be their enemy and he fought against them. So, the angel of his presence saved them. And that is receiving the salv the salvation from you know baptism of fire, baptism of the Holy Ghost being sealed in the forehead. >> Yeah. That redemption. >> But they vexed his holy spirit the same being. Two consecutive verses. The Hebrew text makes it the identification. And when we're talking about this end times Passover thing of being sealed in the forehead that is what the saving is, but those who rebelled are the ones who abadden comes to. So it's the dual role here. Um the angel of the lord is also identified as the spirit in acts 8. So the angel of the lord appears to philillip and speaks unto him saying arise and go towards the south. Then the spirit saith unto philillip go near and join thyself to this chariot. And the spirit of the lord caught away philillip. So across one episode the same spirit speaker is named the angel of the lord. The spirit and the spirit of the lord. So who was talking to philillip would you say? >> Well it it says the angel of the lord. But who was talking to him? What do you mean? Well, >> Jehovah >> through >> his angel. And that's why he's called the spirit because the spirit of the Lord >> is Jehovah himself acting through a vessel because his spirit is upon this angel. >> Um so the righteous man raised from the east. So in Isaiah, one term for the servant is the righteous man being raised up from the east. Um the same as the angel ascended from the east. So Isaiah 4:12, who raised up the righteous man from the east, called him to his foot, gave the nations before him, and made him to rule over kings. Um, and we're going to see exactly who it is that is ruling over kings. >> That's cool. Isaiah 41. That shows up in my clue package. >> Cool. And so we're going to show as well in Isaiah 41 that it identifies that as the speaker because it says it's the spirit who rules above the nations as well. Isaiah names the figure as a righteous man raised up from the east who has given the nations to rule over kings. The same direction as the angel ascending from the east. Revelation 7:2 the same as the Lord's name rising from the east. Malachi 1:11. The same glory coming from the way of the east. So doctrine covenant 77 9. We are to understand that the angel ascending from the east is he to whom is given the seal of the living God over the 12 tribes of Israel. Wherefore he crith unto the four angels having the everlasting gospel saying hurt not the earth till we have sealed the servants of our God in our foreheads. So who's going to hurt the earth? These angels, >> right? >> Um and if you will receive it, this is Elias or Elijah because Elias is just the Greek of if you will receive it, which means there's a lot of people that aren't going to receive it. >> That's right. This is the Elias which will come to gather together the tribes of Israel and restore all things. The righteous man from the east is the angel from the east. Um, Matthew 24:44 uh 24:27, as lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west. Same direction. The man whose name is the branch. >> Do you think that's why the angel Moroni was always pointing east? And the reason why he's not pointing east anymore is maybe because the angel's here, so they're like gathering up all the other angels. >> I'm going to be honest, I don't think I don't think the leaders of the church know who the angel from the east is, they say in the footnotes that Abadin is Satan. >> So I don't think they would know this. I think they're just doing random crap. So they're just do the Holy Ghost is like prompting them to do things and they don't even know why they're doing it. >> Yeah, I think they're just doing random stuff. >> What's that? >> So the man whose name is branch. So in the Dead Sea Scrolls, it identifies the end times David as the branch of David. He is the branch of David. So I'm going to start at the bottom here. Who shall arise with the interpreter of the law to rule Zion. So this is the same servant um from third Nephi who builds up Zion to rule at the end of time. um the branch of David who shall arise at the ends of days to judge the nations. So Zechariah for behold I will bring forth my servant the branch. So this is the Lord speaking through his angel and then behold the man whose name is branch he shall build the temple of the Lord. He shall sit upon and rule this throne and then and he shall be a priest upon his throne. And at the end the angel of the Lord says ye shall know that in that day that the Lord of hosts has sent me unto you. So, the angel of the Lord in Zechariah 6, and you can read the full passage, he is identifying himself as the man called Branch. >> Um, and interestingly enough, Zechariah was visited by the same angel John was. He's shown the same vision. He's even shown John measuring the temple at one point. He's shown the two witnesses. He is shown all this stuff. >> Yeah. And Zechariah, in my opinion, is the most underrated uh book in the Bible. >> Yeah. And so the angel announces his servant the branch. And this messed up when Claude was making it when I was having it do it. The Lord through the angel is announcing his servant the branch. The same branch of David who arises in the end of days to judge the nations and rule in Zion. The angel is not announcing a third party. He is announcing himself. Ye shall know that the Lord of host has sent me unto you. The angel and the branch are one figure. Man, that's blurry. What's going on there? You see that? You see how we're blurry on there? Okay, now it's better. >> Okay. >> So, ju you're don't move the table like you're you're messing it. >> So, anyone who thinks that the >> just move your cuz you're going to you talk like this. This is how LDC talks. So, >> so anyone who thinks that the end times David is Jesus Christ, Jehovah or Joseph Smith have not read the statements by Joseph Smith and John Taylor. There's other early apostles who talked about this as well. Joseph Smith says, "Although David was a king, he never did obtain the spirit and power of Elijah, which is the sealing power of the Holy Ghost and the fullness of the priesthood. And the priesthood that he received, and the throne of the kingdom of David is to be taken from him and given to another by the name of David in the last days, raised up out of his lineage." So, there's a lot of Davids. There's a lot I get a lot of text from people like their name's David. Does that mean that his given name's David? Does he is his new name David? Does he receive the name David? Well, we're gonna talk about this >> just a title >> because his name is also Elijah. His name is also Melchzdc. >> How many names is this guy gonna have, >> right? >> Um, the earth will be under the control of Christ and the glorified saints. And Christ will virtually reign over the whole earth. And this David will be subject to him. This is John Taylor from the times and seasons. And Joseph Smith was the editor at this time. So, he approved this. um a literal descendant of David raised up in the last days holding the fullness of the priesthood including the spirit and power of Elijah. The sealing power which is the Holy Ghost defining office. The one who receives this dividic throne is the one who embodies the Holy Ghost. Um Ezekiel David my servant shall be king over them. Hosea they shall seek David their king in the latter days. So in Isaiah we talk about the arm in the ancient near east being a vassal king. Right. Uh would you like to read these passages? >> Yeah. Behold, the Lord God will come with with strong hand. And >> so who's that? The strong hand. >> Yeah. The the Lord God will come with the strong hand. >> So that's one person. >> And his arm shall rule for him. >> Okay. >> Behold, his reward is with him. He shall feed his flock like a shepherd. He shall gather the lambs with his arm. So could that be the angel with the seal of the living God who gathers the tribes of Israel? Very well. If the seal of the living God, anciently the seal was somebody who was called an arm. Um Isaiah 51:5, "My salvation is gone forth." So how do we receive salvation? The angel of his presence saved them as it says, "And mine arms plural shall judge the people." That's interesting. The aisle shall wait upon me and mine arm, so my arm singular. So there's his arm and then there's his arms. Could it be that there are others who receive the seal of the living God, and on my arm shall they trust? Isaiah 42:1, >> page 9:11. >> So, behold, my servant whom I uphold, I have put my spirit upon him. So, is he saying that the servant is his spirit? >> No. >> No. He says he's put his spirit upon his servant. >> So, it's like when Christ said, I do this not of myself, but the father which dwells within me. So the servant also submits to his father and does the will of his father. He does stuff that he doesn't want to do that the father's asking him to do. >> Yeah. In other words, the angel of his holy spirit. So he has the mind of Christ. He has Christ's voice in his head. He shall bring forth the judgment to the Gentiles. Um and then John 16:8-11, when the comforter has come, he will reprove the world of judgment because the prince of the world is judged. Um the arm judges the peoples. The servant brings judgment to the Gentiles. The government, the Comforter, judges the world and the princes of the world. Same office, three titles, one person. Led by his glorious arm. In all their affliction, he was afflicted. And the angel of his presence saved them. In his love, and in his pity, he redeemed them and bare them and carried them all the days of old. But they rebelled and vexed his holy spirit. Then they remember the days of old, Moses and his people, saying, "Where is he that put his holy spirit within them?" Um Isaiah 63:12 uh says that and I tried to have it have the full thing in there that led them by the right hand of Moses. And what I'm going to suggest is that the seven stars in the right hand are the seven dispensation heads and that they all hold the office of the hand of the Lord with his glorious arm dividing the waters before them to make himself an everlasting name. Isaiah 63:13-14 says that led them through the deep as a horse in the wilderness as a beast goest down into the valley. The spirit of the Lord caused him to rest. >> That that has some Leviticus 16 scapegoat going down into the valley. >> Yes. So d thou lead thy people to make thyself a glorious saint. And what the scapegoat does is he carries away the sin. So if the angel of the presence is the scapegoat, he is carrying away the sin through the baptism of fire, the baptism of the Holy Ghost. >> Do you know in numerology what the number 23 represents? >> The path of the hidden one, >> the scapegoat. >> I'm the one who taught you that. >> You did teach me that and I appreciate that. >> Uh this is the spirit of revelation, the spirit by which Moses brought the Israel through the Red Sea on dry ground. So it is saying that it was the spirit who divided the Red Sea. In DNC8 it says it identifies the Holy Ghost as who divided the Red Sea. The arm is a person revealed as the servant. So Isaiah 51, awake, awake, put on strength, oh arm of the Lord. Awake as in the ancient days. Art thou not it which cut Rahab and wounded the dragon? Now Rahab is Egypt, right? And wounded the dragon? Art thou not it which dried the sea? So again, it's identifying the arm of the Lord as the >> How was nobody put this together, LDC? >> Because they're not me. Um, and so, art thou not it which hath dried the Red Sea? Um, so the arm of the Lord dried the Red Sea. The Holy Ghost sea, the angel of the Lord dried the Red Sea because they're one figure. Who hath believed our report? And to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed? For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of dry ground. Now, as a root out of dry ground also goes back to the Zechariah prophecy where he will grow up out of his place. So, um, and I did a whole video on this in the past. The ancient near east, the vassal king who bears the king names. Again, in the ancient near east, the arm of the king was a real office, a vassal king who carried the sovereign sing ring and the seal, acting with full delegated authority. He bore the king's name and spoke as the king, just as the angel of the Lord speaks as if he's the Lord. The prophet addresses the arm in second person. Out thou not it because the arm is a person, not a metaphor. And throughout Isaiah, the arm is the servant. Identical acts, different titles, one person. So, Exodus, he's identified as the one who smoked the Egypt. The angel of the Lord did the angel of the Lord divided the Red Sea. In Exodus, he led Israel by a pillar. He brought Israel out of Egypt in Deuteronomy and he slew the Assyrians. And then in Isaiah, the arm of the Lord is doing all the same things. He cut Rahab, wounded the dragon. He dried the sea. Um Isaiah 51 and 63 mention this. Um he led them by his arm. Isaiah 63. He brought them up out of the sea. Again, Isaiah 63:11. And the arm shall be on the Chaldans who are the Assyrians. So we see that Isaiah is explicitly identifying times in the Old Testament when the angel of the Lord showed up and saying that this servant is the angel of the Lord. Um Acts 7:30 7. This is good. A lot of people don't understand who appeared to Moses in the bush. >> Yeah. Um this Moses God sent to be a ruler and deliverer by the hand of the angel which appeared to him in the bush. The angel which spake to him in the mount Zion. Um and so here's something else that's very interesting. A similar terminology is used in Joseph Smith's patriarchal blessing about the hand of the angel of his presence coming to him. Um now DNC 8 again the spirit of the revelation is the spirit which brought Moses and Israel through the Red Sea on dry ground. So it was the spirit of the lord acting through the angel of the lord. So the spirit of the lord is his spirit his mind his consciousness and the angel bears his spirit. So the angel can also say I am the spirit of the lord because he is submitting his will to the spirit. Um but he's also a distinct person. The servant is the malaq the messenger who prepares the way. And there's page 911 again. >> And what does the elias do? Um the elias prepares the way. So behold my servant. I have put my spirit upon him. He shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles till he have set his judgment in the earth. Um Isaiah 42, hear ye deaf and look ye blind that ye may see. Who is blind but my servant or deaf as my messenger as I said. And the word for messenger is the Hebrew word malik or angel. Isaiah 40 plus Malachi 3. The messenger prepares the way. The voice of him that cth in the wilderness prepare the way of the world Lord in Isaiah 43. And in Malachi he says behold I will send my messenger and he shall prepare the way before me. Now, in the Joseph Smith translation of the New Testament, it says that this passage referred to John the Baptist and to a future person. So, two different people that it refers to. >> Don't Don't bump the table. Remember, >> I apologize. I'm going to move my the keyboard a little closer. So, the sword from his mouth, the key of David in his hand. So, the angel when he appears to John on Patmos, what he sees is that in his right hand, seven stars. Again, those are the seven dispensation heads or the hand of the Lord. And out of his mouth went a sharp two-edged sword. >> What do you think that means? >> Um, it could be truth and the things that he says, right? >> And it cuts. >> Yes. And it hurts. >> I mean, it says that his vowels will be a fountain of truth. Um, and it says that when he opens his mouth, kings will shut their mouths at the things which have not been told. Um, and so this is a very disruptive thing. So, um, it's very funny. I heard a story of some people who, uh, a friend of mine told me that they thought that you had this guy on the channel, David Alexander was the Davidic servant, the guy who he was like an evangelical and he came to the restoration. >> And so, they like traveled all the way out to I don't know if it was Washington or something where he was and met him. And this lady was convinced like that she was receiving revelation. She's like, I'm receiving revelation from God, right? Because there and and from what I heard, this was a lady who could legitimately receive revelation. But that's when why when we're receiving revelation, we need to doublech check. We need to see if we can find these things in the scriptures to back it up. And we need to gain another witness without telling somebody like, "I need you to pray about this and tell me if this is true." Because then they're going to be like, "Uh, well, I think it's true." Right? We need to see if there are people without even mentioning it who are getting the same information. Um, but anyways, this lady, she travels to see David Alexander. Um, and she's convinced that she's supposed to be the wife of the Davidic servant and that um, and again, legit, she was someone who legit could channel information from what I heard. And she shows up and he has no idea what she's talking about. She he doesn't even know what the Davidic servant is, right? But she thinks his name is David. He must be the Davidic servant. And so it it just shows how people like they don't understand the Davidic servant prophecies. And no offense to David Alexander, he's a great guy. I don't think that he's somebody who's going to bring judgment in the way that Isaiah describes because this is the destroying angel of the Lord. This isn't teddy bear Jesus. This isn't right. Like this is if you read the accounts of Isaiah, this is like Old Testament God type stuff. And so >> so he's going to he's going to be controversial. >> Yeah. To say the least. And so he hath in his right hand seven stars, and out of his mouth went a sharp two-edged sword. And his countenance was as the sun shinth in strength. >> As the son. >> Yes. >> Not the sun. >> Yes. And so this is the description of the angel who appeared to John, who is identified as both the angel of the Lord and the spirit. Now in Isaiah 49:2, the servant speaks, "And he hath made my mouth sharp like a sword. In the shadow of his hand hath he hid me, and he made me a polished shaft. In the quiver hath he hid me. And this is also why he can't be the hand of the Lord as well is because the arm is hidden in the shadow of the hand. Right? So this Revelation 116 very interesting 116 I'm born on the 116th day of the year. So first it talks about the seven stars of the seven archangels. And out of his mouth went a sharp two-edged sword and his countenance was as the sun shineth in strength. So he has his mouth as a sword just like the servant in Isaiah. Then Isaiah 49:2, "And he hath made my mouth sharp like a sword." Right? So same mouth, same sword, same servant. And then again in Revelation 3, the angel is identified as the servant in Isaiah. These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, and this is the angel speaking. He that hath the key of David, he that openeth and no man shutth and shutth and no man openeth. And just a couple verses later, it says, listen to what the spirit saith. So the spirit is the one speaking to the seven dispensation heads. Um, and no man openeth. So he has the key of David and Isaiah 22:22 when speaking of the servant. And the key of the house of David will I lay upon his shoulder. So he shall open and none shall shut. And he shall shut and none shall open. And what I would suggest is that that is the sealing power of the Holy Ghost. That is what it is. The key of the house of David to shut that no man might open and open that no man might shut. That is the sealing power of the Holy Ghost. Um, but again, it is the angel in the book of Revelation who is identified as having these two things as a direct reference to Isaiah. And this cannot be Jesus because it's identified as both Jesus's angel and the spirit in the book of Revelation. Abaden, the eighth angel, the latter-day David. So in the discourse of Abaden, seven archangels, Mark, Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, Suriel, and three others were sent to gather Adam's dust. each failed. Um, the eighth abandon succeeded. So, they have the seven main angels and they're not able to do this task. And I would suggest that this is not a literal account. This is a metaphorical account. But then the eighth comes who's just like they're like, who is this guy? And he shows up and he's able to do what the Lord commanded where this other seven could not. Adam was formed from the dust. The eighth had gathered. One might say that through my only begotten all things were created. um the same Muriel is his name. So his name is Muriel or Muriel and in Greek Miron is the holy anointing angel. So it's interesting. This came from a Coptic sort of Greek tradition. And this is the one of the only angels in scripture that has a Greek name with the Hebrew L. But in Greek is symbolic of >> the Gentiles. >> That's right. And so and yeah that that makes a lot of sense. So Muriel who is the Greek the holy anointing oil the eighth angel bears the name crisismated one the mazesc priest king. And so what we are to understand in the gnostic gospels is that Jesus became the Christ when the holy ghost came upon him. >> That was his anointing. >> Yes. Um and that's what the gnostic gospels say. And then the spirit who came upon Jesus he says I put on Christ. So the Holy Ghost in the Gnostic Gospels is speaking, I put on Christ. I dwelt within him. And so Christ was allowing the father to act through the Holy Ghost dwelling within him. And >> and might I suggest that all of you out there can receive that Christ anointing, that baptism of fire, that um anointing that happens when you're truly sanctified and you obtain that that but what do they call it? Christ consciousness. >> Yeah. And that's what the I would say Christ consciousness is the gift of the Holy Ghost. >> That's the anointing. >> Yes. And so the Holy Ghost gives us the mind of Christ. That is why we receive the new name Christ. Because literally Christ is dwelling within us. And that is what John 14:15 and 16 tells us. Christ says that he and the father will dwell within us. That's why the holy spirit is called the mind of the father and the son. And what Jesus says in that sermon is that through the holy ghost dwelling within us, the father and the son will also dwell within us. >> Uh the fifth angel sounded to him was given the key to the bottomless pit. Their king was the angel of the bottomless pit whose name is Abaden. Right? We already went over this. But Jesse made seven of his sands pass before Samuel, but the Lord chose none. Samuel asked, "Are all thy children?" One remained, David, the youngest, the eighth, anointed in the midst of his brethren. the pattern of the eighth and what we see in the book of revelation is we see the seven archangels the seven dispensate heads midst of them is one like the son of man >> number eight >> yes number eight um is I'm going to go into this more in depth um so there's also these connecting apocryphal texts now I touched on this in the god of this world video the last one but um ofen there is a investigure of Michael and an investigure of Gabriel text which are are right beside it. And what it says in it, it explicitly says that Lucifer or Satan was the firstborn of the angels. And so what happens in this narrative is that when he falls, his glory and his power is stripped of him. He goes down to a lower level. In fact, the veil might come over him in some sense. But his duties, so Abadin takes his place as the eighth angel. Muriel does. And his duties are distributed to Abadin and the various angels. So Michael gets part of his uh, you know, duties. Michael is called the firstborn after Lucifer falls, right? So Michael is called the eldest of the angels because Satan fell. Um, Gabriel gets some of his duties as well. And what I'm going to suggest when we go over some of these things with the seven dispensation heads is that what is happening in Revelation chapter 2 and three is that there is a let's just say a reporting to the one like unto the son of man and that he is receiving things from him which is the fullness of the office which Lucifer once held because the office was distributed among the seven angels which is what these apocalyp texts suggest. Um but it is not a coincidence that in the discourse of Abadin there are seven angels that are sent and they're all passed by and then the eighth who is the youngest is the one that gets chosen that is the most qualified and then in Samuel the same thing happens and let's say Jesse is Christ the son of Jesse. All right so let's reread this. So Jesse kind of sounds like Jesus doesn't it? So let's read that as Jesus. Jesus made seven of his sons pass before Samuel, but the Lord chose none. Samuel asked, "Are here all thy children?" One remained, David, the youngest, the eighth, anointed in the midst of his brethren. The pattern of the eighth. Like >> and and and David was not like his other brothers, right? It's said that maybe David came from a different mind. >> Yes. From a different mother. Um, and so it's very interesting when we're seeing that pattern that it's not a coincidence in the scriptures. It's not a coincidence that this is in the discourse of Abaden. And then we see in the book of Revelation who holds the keys of death and hell, the angel of the Lord, he is in the midst of the other 70. Can I just tell everybody watching right now in this moment, there is nobody is being taught to you right now. This information is the first time Gileadi hasn't taught it. Uh no but no of the Isaiah scholars have taught it. There are no BYU professors that teach. If you're curious about the discourse of Abadin, it was quoted in the early 2000s other than uh Nelson, >> President Nelson. And so what you right now, look at this. It's wig it out. What you're receiving right now new for you to consider and what you need to consider is that you're receiving that are things happening and John and those who have been commanded to Terry are behind maybe strange act. Well, here's an interesting thing. So, what you're saying is that so I can understand this stuff. Did you know about this stuff with Samuel and the eight brothers or whatever and the bad and stuff with the pattern? I I don't know. Did you know about that? >> I mean, yes, I knew about a pattern and I knew the eight. I didn't put together what you put together uh as David being also number eight. >> So, here's a question. So, what you're saying is that all of these scholars, these learned men, there's this book and they try to read the book and they say, "Oh, there goes my headphones. This book is sealed. I cannot read it." >> Yeah. And this BYU professor, he you're literally like breaking down verse one of Revelation where it says Jesus sent his angel. And he's like, "No, Jesus came and he like he can't read the book. The book is sealed. I cannot read it." And then I haven't I don't have any degrees in any of this stuff. I'm just some random dude. Some unlearned man is just coming. He's like, "Oh, that's what it says." Could it be that when people think they are learned and they have preconceived notions of what is going on that they become prideful and that that is what makes it so that they can't seal the book? And I'm not saying like Gilead or any of those guys are prideful. But I'm just saying like this BYU professor, he's not able to even read the book. He cannot read the book. It is sealed. I tell people this all the time. You you have to divest yourself from all intellectual pride. If you want to understand the scriptures, you have to approach them from the standpoint of I'm dumb. I'm deaf. I'm blind. I don't know anything. If you approach the scriptures thinking you already got it all figured out and because you went to school and because you studied and because you you went to Sunday school every week, you have to say, "Okay, I I am going to divest myself from all intellectual pride. I want to be taught by the Lord. Uh, and I'm going to be open. And you have to follow Moroni's pattern. Moroni 10:3-5. Otherwise, things will continue to be sealed. Though, so on the last video, I saw a lot of comments saying, "I knew Lucifer was the first receive my own revelation about this, though." There was one person who said, "I was downplaying his office and he's actually more important." And what I would suggest is that when it talks about Semiel falling and the Apocrypha, he lost a lot of his power. So when he fell, he lost what he once had. He was once the greatest of all angels. >> He lost his estate. >> Yes. Um and he's in a lower form. But also, most people can't even accept that Lucifer and Jesus aren't even brothers. So, we're not just going to go and actually Lucifer was super super duper powerful, a full-fledged god with this sort of power over all these dimensions and stuff if people can't even handle Lucifer and Jesus not being brothers and the Holy Ghost being Jesus's son. Um, that's what I would say on that which we have to teach people these things line upon line, precept upon precept and see if people will wake up. So, the nations are nothing before his spirit. Um, so this is Isaiah. I don't know why I didn't put the full thing in. I was telling Claude to make it for me. I was in a rush, but I'm going to list up. So, Isaiah 40 uh 15 through 17, actually. So, would you read from verse 13 to 15? >> Yep. 13 to 15. >> Yes. >> It says, "Who hath directed the spirit of the Lord or being his counselor hath taught him? with whom took he counsel and who instructed him and taught him in the path of jud and taught him knowledge and showed to him the way of understanding. Behold, the nations are a drop of a bucket and are counted as the small dust of the balance. Behold, he taketh up the isisle as a very little thing. Okay. Now in very shortly after this and we also have to remember that there were not chapters originally in it. We go to Isaiah 41 which I quoted earlier about the righteous man from the east who is the angel of the east who raised up the righteous man from the east called him to his foot and gave him the nations before him and made him to rule over kings. So the nations are before the spirit and the nations are before the righteous men. Could it be that the righteous man from the east is the spirit? This book is sealed. I cannot read it. It's right there in the book on the It's on the same page. >> Like I've been saying for two years on this channel, what do the words say? Just read the words. >> I think people just don't know how to read. This book is sealed. I cannot read it. But it's on the same page. It says that the spirit as the nations before him and that the righteous man who is the angel from the east who has the sealing power of the Holy Ghost. It it's so obvious like to to watch this video and not understand who exactly the Davidic servant is to think that it's Joseph Smith or Jesus or anyone else. I'm sorry. You have to have a learning disability or something. I'm not saying that to be mean. I'm saying that it is literally on the same page in the book. >> It says the spirit so many times. And when we say the spirit, we know who we're talking about. We're talking about the HG. Yes. Um, the seven sfold spirit rests upon the branch. So Isaiah 11, and there shall come forth a rod. Well, we know who the rod is. That's Joseph Smith. Or those who are cuz I might say that there was a rod in every dispensation. >> Totally. >> And that there might be a lot of rods in the last days. >> There shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a branch shall grow out of his roots, and the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him. So who is the spirit of the Lord upon? the rod or the branch. >> The branch. >> Okay. A lot of people misread that and I think Joseph Smith's dad misread this too. Uh going back out reading some of the stuff Joseph Smith's dad was saying which shows that even prophets and their fathers are not perfect. The spirit of wisdom sorry Neil loer the spirit of wisdom and understanding. Can you read this? My voice is going horse. >> Yeah. Um, so it says where are we at? >> Okay, water. The spirit of understand of wisdom. >> Okay. The spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord. In Isaiah 11 3-4, uh, what the branch does. Now, you have to understand Isaiah 11 is one of the most important chapters. And how do we know that? Well, Moroni when he visited Joseph, he quoted Isaiah 11. And because he quoted it, Joseph Smith in DNC 113 is asking questions about Isaiah chapter 11 because he's trying to figure out why did Moroni quote this to me. He says, "With righteousness shall he judge the poor and reprove the equity for the meek of the earth? And he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth." Okay, so is the rod smiting the earth with the rod of his mouth? That doesn't make sense. Is he smiting the earth with himself? No, this is talking about the branch. The branch is the one that does this. So with equity for the meek of the earth, he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth. And yes, I know that the Hebrew word for rod is different here, but I'm kind of making a point. And with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked. So how is he going to do this? With his words, with the sword of his mouth. Um, and what we see is that the same words are used to describe the comforter when he comes in John 16. So when he has come, he will reprove the world of sin. >> He is the Holy Ghost. >> Yeah. And of righteousness and of judgment. And of judgment because the prince of this world is judge. And again, the angel of the Lord in Zechariah identifies himself as the man called branch. So the angel of the Lord is the Davidic servant is the Holy Ghost. The branch judges and reproves. The comforter judges and reproves. Same office, same words, one person. And this is the eighth angel who holds authority over the seven dispensation. It can't be Joseph Smith because he holds authority over Joseph Smith. Um the gospel of the holy 12 which is the same apocryphal text that uses the word to go no more out or as many call it the Aramaic Matthew because he claims that it was an Aramaic copy of the Gospel of Matthew that he found in Tibet. In the gospel of the holy 12, Jesus says, "One shall sit on my throne who shall be a man of truth." The spirit of truth maybe and goodness and power. There shall be one pontiff sitting on his throne as a king and a priest. And my spirit shall be upon him and his throne shall endure and not be taken. So the spirit who rests upon the branch is the same spirit who reproves the world through the comforter. The comforter judges the prince of this world. So John 16:7-11, Christ names the comforter's office. If I depart, I will send him unto you. And when he has come, he will reprove the world of sin and of righteousness. Righteousness is a name of the servant in Isaiah. Um and of judgment of judgment because the prince of this world is judged. The Dead Sea Scrolls identify Melchzdc as the escalological figure who executes judgment against Balile or Satan. The Kuman named for this prince of darkness. The war scroll names cosmic battle the prince of light versus the prince of darkness. Um the comforter reproves the world because the prince of this world is judged. Who's the prince of this world? The god of this world. The original chief angel who in the discourse of abadin has his power taken from him. Um the prince of light is mazedd the devic servant the branch upon whom the spirit rests. The comforter who reproves the world and the prince of light who executes verdict are one person. Now, isn't Melzdc a name for the servant in Isaiah, the prince of peace, the king of righteousness? >> That's right. The deck. >> So, when it's talking about Melzdc executing judgment, it's talking about the servant in Isaiah. And so, when Jesus is saying the comforter will come to judge at the prince of the world and Jesus was likely in a scene, right? Like people think that he was with the Essenes. He's literally referring to this scroll where he's talking about Melzdc coming. So, when Jesus says the comforter is coming, he's talking about Melzdc. The Holy Ghost waits for his probation. Um, and so here's something else interesting that I'm going to go more into in the future because this is all over the New Testament. So what does Jesus say his righteous servant is going to do? >> Reprove the world of sin. >> No, no, no, no. Wrong. That that's what he says the comforter. What does he say in Isaiah his righteous servant is going to do? >> Teach me. >> Well, he is going to justify many with his knowledge. And in the New Testament, who justifies? You're washed. You're sanctified. You're justified. So who the person who sanctifies us is the one who justifies us in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. Well, who bears the Lord of the name Jesus Christ? The Holy Ghost. And by the spirit of our God. Again, God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the spirit. That's all throughout the New Testament. Um there were some more that I didn't know if I'd have time to include where for example um there is a passage that says Jesus Christ was raised by our justification in Romans. Now Romans 8:11 also says >> Jesus was raised >> was raised by the Holy Ghost. >> Yeah. It says Jesus was raised by the spirit. So he was raised by our justification. He was raised by the spirit and the spirit is the one who justifies. So, who is my righteous servant that will justify many? The spirit, the Holy Ghost. Um, and so I think it's very clear that these are the same figure. It's very plain in the text. Um, and all throughout it that this is one figure and the only reason people can see it is because it is sealed. And understanding this is important for understanding the episodes ahead. um because I'm going to break down the redemption of Zion. I'm going to break down in the next episode some controversial things um about the Holy Ghost that I don't think anybody's going to be able to refute because it's in the scriptures. But um it's very plain stuff and I think a lot of times people get so caught up on their opinions like where we see people where it's like no Joseph Smith is the dividend. He's the Davidic servant. It's like well Joseph Smith's a servant and there are certain prophecies in Isaiah that are about him but Joseph Smith talked about the Davidic servant as a different person than him. Um, and a lot of people because we've had we had emailed so many people claiming to be the Davidic servant, a lot of them don't even understand the prophecies about what the Davidic servant is supposed to do. Um, so understanding this stuff because it's very plain in the text is very important. Um, do you have any stuff to add? >> No. >> Okay. Well, um we're going to go more into um the servant justifying in the next episode and we're going to talk about the second comforter because what I'm going to suggest is that most people who claim to have received the second comforter haven't received it because or they have received it and they don't know who visited them because Jesus in the New Testament tells us who's going to visit him. And we're going to break down that sermon of the indwelling of the spirit, how Christ is one with the father and how the holy ghost is one with him. And we're going to ask the question of what really happened in the first vision and why are there so many contradictory accounts? Because I think that there is a consistent answer and I think Joseph Smith knew some stuff that he wasn't telling us. And we're also going to break down and show once and for all that John the beloved is not the angel from the east because the angel from the east is making people's calling and election made sure and that he is the holy spirit of promise. Um so we're going to go into that after. We're also going to go into the seven dispensation heads and Adam on. And from there we're going to talk more about the redemption of Zion and the things that have to happen. >> Love it. Hey, if uh you enjoyed this video, here's what I want you to do. Go ahead and like the video, share the video, and you should share the video. Why should you share this video? I don't know. Because we taught some things that maybe nobody on planet Earth has taught before. Um, this is one one of those videos that you're probably going to have to go back through and watch again. Here's what I suggest you do. Get your scriptures out. Go scriptures for yourself. go seek for yourself. We're laying out theories, which is what DNC 88 verse 78 says that we are commanded to do. So, the theories have been laid out. And again, like we've always said on this channel, seek the spirit to confirm the truth. Don't take my word for it. Don't take Latter-day Chad's word for it. Don't take your neighbor's word for it. Seek the spirit for confirmation. Once you receive a confirmation, don't turn back from that confirmation. You know the what the unpardonable sin is, right? Denying the Holy Ghost. >> Yeah. So, don't do that. Um, but thank you all for tuning in. >> Yeah. And what I would say is like it's very interesting because many times I see people disagreeing with the stuff, but never am I able to see people refuting this stuff with scriptures when I'm laying this stuff out. >> Yeah. >> It's like if you're going to disagree, and you you can, you should back it up. You should back it up with scripture with saying here's where you're wrong. You shouldn't go online. You shouldn't go online or on Facebook. >> That just that just be note. >> Yeah. You shouldn't go online or on Facebook or in the comment section unless you're fully prepared to defend your position. And anybody and I invite everybody. I invite all comers. Well, here's something very fascinating. So, >> hey, I'm in the middle of something for hell's sakes. >> Sorry. >> This guy's always interrupting me. Okay, I invite all comers to come and sit down with myself or Latter Day Chad and have a discussion on your position. If you won't do that and you're going to go online and you're going to make comments online because you're afraid to come and sit down, you're a coward. So come and sit down with us. I am totally okay. I know Latter- Day Chad is as well to say, "Oh, wow. I didn't see that. Thank you for sharing that with us." But don't go online and be a keyboard warrior. Come sit down. Let's have a discussion. Let's go through the scriptures. And at the end of the day, um I'm totally open to if you see it different and you can prove it in the scriptures, uh being able to go like, "Oh, okay. I see where you come from." Okay. Well, it it's a very interesting thing because one thing that studies have shown is that Latter-day Saints are much more scripturally their scriptural knowledge is way better than most Christians for the most part. Like studies have shown evangelicals and Latter Day Saints are at the top. And we do see sometimes where it's like an evangelical will corner Latter-day Saint like some missionaries who know nothing on something and they won't be able to answer. But in general, like they they know the scriptures pretty well. But what I also see is that they draw the line like so many people are just arguing about like the Trinity, the Trinity, the I don't care about the Trinity. Um, and it's very interesting because there's a lot of people online who don't like me because of my opinions where, you know, there are people who think that I'm such and such person reincarnated or I think I'm such and such person reincarnated and I'm the Holy Ghost and I'm Satan's son all at the same time. Wait, so if I'm the Holy Ghost and the Holy Ghost is Jesus's son and I'm Satan's son, does that mean Jesus is Satan confirmed? Don't listen to anything. >> Someone's going to take that out of context. Exactly. No, that's just the stuff people are saying. So, the point I'm making, >> you need to be more >> the point. >> I just got done teaching lots of truth and then you go say some weird >> No, I'm saying what people have said about me in my own comments. >> I I see it. >> So, here's an interesting thing I've noticed like with a lot of these LDS apologists, they're focusing so much on the trinity. They don't even know what the trinity is. They think the angel of the Lord is Jesus. Um, there's this one guy, um, I forget his name. It's like something truth who he just goes on TikTok and argues with people who are really stupid, like that they don't know the doctrine whatsoever. Like some random evangelical. And he's like known as being a debater. Um, and this guy was like, I'm I didn't even know this guy. I didn't even know who he was. I was made aware of him cuz, you know, he's talking smack about me online and he refused to debate me on something. like he's like known as a debater and he's debating people who are basically complete losers who don't know the scriptures whatsoever, but he refuses to even talk to me about anything. Like he refuses to address any points I made. Um and he tried like on anything. And so I've also noticed this other guy who um again he thinks the angel of the Lord is Jesus. Um, and he thinks that the 144,000 are people who did a really good job of keeping their temple recommends literally what he believes. He made a whole post about this on Instagram. Um, and so this guy when I first started this stuff, all these people in like the LDS community because I knew this stuff better than most people. I'm not bragging that that's just the way my brain works with my memory. I was able to cite this stuff. Um, and as soon as I like I literally I'm like, you know, I think maybe Joseph Smith made a mistake with polygamy, right? All these people just like turn on me and I I get sent screenshots of people saying like he's an apostate. He thinks the church is an apostasy. I think that the scriptures say the church is going to fall under condemnation. And Brigham Young at like the milk factory or whatever it was, Brigham Young literally says the leaders of the church will be on the verge of bringing the church to hell when the one mighty and strong comes. That's Brigham Young. Young's words from in the official history of Brigham Y. Young. So I know what the prophecies are, which is also why I know, okay, the church doesn't fall into apostasy. It ultimately gets redeemed. Um, but it's very much a thing where a lot of people they want to blindly defend whatever their status quo is or whatever. When I'm just out here trying to seek what is the truth. And I think that's why I'm able to understand these scriptures, it's not cuz I'm particularly smart. It's because I'm open-minded. It's like, okay, if the scriptures said um such and such controversial thing and that's actually what it says and I can back it up with multiple sources, I will believe that um and if I can receive spiritual confirmation of it. And so it's an interesting thing where I think that's why um you know words like a sword is because a lot of people when they have you know certain ways of viewing things that makes them function when their beliefs get challenged they go into a cognitive dissonance whereas with me I'm always challenging my beliefs and I think that's what it's really about um with anything not anyone in particular but those are just personal examples I've seen Okay, awesome. Um, thank you again for tuning in. I hope you like this episode. >> Um, and uh, again, Bear Lake Gathering, come and attend. Um, I can't stress this enough. Um, get your oracle code today. The code is going to help you remember. The code is going to point you to scripture. The code is help latter day Chad. Remember the code is one of the fruits of the servant. So, um, make sure go get the code um, and dig in, study it, play around with it. There's so much information. Go to oraclecode.com, get the web app. When the A lot of people have asked me, well, well, what what happens when it comes out on the mobile app? Will I have to buy it again? No, you won't. If you buy it on the web app and you're a lifetime member on the web app, you'll have access through your login to the mobile app. So, go to the web app, get signed up there. Um, the mobile app hopefully will come out here in the next couple of weeks. We're still in the approval process uh with Apple. Uh they're going through the and uh approving it. And it is a process, but I didn't want to delay it anymore. I wanted it to get released. I I can tell you people are having an amazing experience with uh the app. I got an email from a lady. She said there aren't enough thanks uh thank yous in the world to let you know how grateful I am for the Oracle code. It's like a patriarchal blessing on steroids. There's so much information, so much to learn from. I feel so blessed and thankful to be able to know myself and my purpose. If you're interested in uh receiving a confirmation about something you've been taught about who you are and what you're here to do, it's going to be in the oracle code. If you want to understand in in uh a greater way what your purpose is and what your mission is, it's going to be found in the oracle code. Make sure you go to your birthright blessing and the scripture witness. Those are two of the most powerful components of the oracle code. Um, also, hey, get your song if you've already joined uh the the Oracle Code family. Uh, go ahead and get your songs. Um, it they're they're super fun and these songs are also a way for you to remember who you are. For myself, I'm Shane Baldwin. For Latterday Chad, we'll see you guys all next time. Where truth is our guide. In the arms of Zion we stand side by side. Where the story is told. Bringing forth the whistle, both ancient and bold.

[OpenAeye]

Simple explanation:

Michael Sherwin’s “Eight Michael’s” framing and Latter-day Chad’s “eighth angel / Davidic servant” framing overlap at one key point:

Michael is a description, not necessarily a personal name.

Sherwin’s line is the cleaner anchor:

Source thread

“Michael” means “who is like unto God,” so the question becomes:

Who bears God’s name?

Who carries God’s presence?

Who acts with delegated divine authority?

Who judges, seals, gathers, and prepares the way?

That lets Daniel’s Michael, Revelation’s angel from the east, Isaiah’s servant/branch/arm, and the angel of His presence be compared without forcing every passage onto Jesus, Joseph Smith, Adam, or John the Beloved.

The caution:

The video makes many correlations, but some claims outrun the text. Best path is to separate:

1. Scripture plainly says.

2. Joseph/Sherwin taught or inferred.

3. Chad/Shane theorize.

4. Footnotes may be wrong or corrupted.

The strongest overlap is:

The end-times servant is not “more than Christ,” but a sent vessel acting under Christ’s name, seal, and presence.

That keeps Jesus as the mark, while still allowing Isaiah to add an end-times servant.

[BeNotDeceived]

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