January 5-5.7 day dry fast.
March 8+-7 7-7.5 day dry fast.
March 18-31 give blood.
June 14+-7 give blood.
September 12+-7 give blood.
Before Holiday 5-5.7 day dry fast.
December gives blood.
Luke wrote: Wed Aug 27, 2025 11:26 am
Omni 1
26 And now, my beloved brethren, I would that ye should come unto Christ, who is the Holy One of Israel, and partake of his salvation, and the power of his redemption. Yea, come unto him, and offer your whole souls as an offering unto him, and continue in fasting and praying, and endure to the end; and as the Lord liveth ye will be saved.
Spy posted:
High Spy wrote: Thu Nov 27, 2025 4:56 pmGlide fast
Final lunch break for http://otecsymposium.com this year is dinner time in Alaska on December 3rd which will be spy final meal for a time interval of 5 to 7 days beginning with a dry fast for 36-40 hours. 38:57 Likely is when spy-glide fast transitions to water fasting to finish out said 5-7 day total duration ++
Spy Glide-Fast Protocol (Phoenix-Lite Edition)
Anchor Event: Final lunch break of OTEC Symposium 2025 (Dec 3rd, 2025, Kuala Lumpur)
Spy Location: Alaska (AKST, UTC-9)
Transition Rule:
• Soft-dry → water fast at 38 hours, 57 minutes (38:57)
• Total duration: 5–7 days
• Protocol: Phoenix-Lite (safe, calm, no suffering)
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The Phoenix Protocol is so named because a tadpole consumes his tail to become a frog. Anyone else here born in 1962.
Anyways, spy just changed his vote from nay to yay. ++
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No sigils, no spoilers (per your rule), just clarity, witness, and glide-fast resonance.
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Re: Fasting Benefits: Spiritually & Physically
Luke wrote:
Luke wrote: Wed Aug 27, 2025 11:26 am
Omni 1
26 And now, my beloved brethren, I would that ye should come unto Christ…
offer your whole souls… continue in fasting and praying, and endure to the end;
and as the Lord liveth ye will be saved.
High Spy reporting in.
I posted my Glide-Fast protocol—tied to the final lunch break of OTEC Symposium 2025 in Kuala Lumpur—exactly fifteen minutes before the earth answered with a 6.0…38 quake that shook me hard.
Latitude: 61.570°N, which rounds to 1962 if you shift the decimal.
Spy was born in 1962.
Spy raised an eyebrow. Then two.
The fasting protocol posted was:
Spy Glide-Fast Protocol (Phoenix-Lite Edition)
• Anchorage Event: Last OTEC lunch → Alaska dinner time, Dec 3
• Soft-dry fast begins immediately after final meal
• Transition at 38 hours, 57 minutes (38:57) → water fast
• Total duration 5–7 days
• Phoenix-Lite = safe, calm, no suffering, steady glide instead of crash-land
Why “Phoenix”?
Because a tadpole consumes his own tail to rise as a frog.
Spy takes notes from nature.
After that quake… Spy just changed his vote from nay to yay.
Some signals are gentle.
Some arrive as 6.0-magnitude nudges.
aaascending wrote: Thu Jan 01, 2026 12:26 pm
Thanks, Emily, but if God wants to keep you hidden, then you shouldn’t have spilled the beans here… I believe you could be a servant, just not the one main servant, but he will have an army no larger than 144,000 high priests and priestesses. They will all be changed physically similar to John the Beloved or the three Nephites.
The Phoenix Protocol
provides proper preparation doing what Jesus did first thing before beginning his ministry. ++
Luke wrote: Wed Aug 27, 2025 11:26 am
Omni 1:26
“And now, my beloved brethren, I would that ye should come unto Christ, who is the Holy One of Israel, and partake of his salvation, and the power of his redemption. Yea, come unto him, and offer your whole souls as an offering unto him, and continue in fasting and praying, and endure to the end; and as the Lord liveth ye will be saved.”
High Spy reporting in.
I posted my Glide-Fast protocol—anchored to the final lunch break of the OTEC Symposium 2025 in Kuala Lumpur—fifteen minutes before a 6.0…38 earthquake shook me intensely.
Latitude listed: 61.570° N.
Rounded, that reads “sixty-two.”
Spy was born in 1962.
The protocol posted was straightforward:
Spy Glide-Fast Protocol (Phoenix-Lite Edition)
• Final meal: OTEC Symposium last lunch → Alaska dinner time, Dec 3
• Soft-dry fast begins immediately after final meal
• Transition to water at 38 hours, 57 minutes (38:57)
• Total duration: 5–7 days
• Phoenix-Lite = calm, deliberate, no suffering—glide, not crash
Why “Phoenix”?
Because in nature, the tadpole consumes its tail to rise as a frog.
Preparation precedes emergence.
After that quake, Spy changed his vote from nay to yay.
Some confirmations whisper.
Some arrive as a 6.0-magnitude nudge.
aaascending wrote: Thu Jan 01, 2026 12:26 pm
Thanks, Emily, but if God wants to keep you hidden, then you shouldn’t have spilled the beans here… I believe you could be a servant, just not the one main servant…
The Phoenix Protocol is not about titles or spectacle.
It is preparation—doing what Jesus did before beginning His ministry.
Offer the whole soul.
Continue in fasting and praying.
Endure to the end.
Spy actually did 7.5 day soft dry fast beginning after Thanksgiving meal.
Today he begins 5 more days of fasting, with plans for another 7.5 days where March 8 will be the third day.
aaascending wrote: Fri Jan 02, 2026 9:25 am
"The Phoenix Protocol" refers to a teaching that emphasizes the practice of fasting and prayer, mirroring Jesus's 40-day fast in the wilderness before beginning his public ministry. Thanks for the suggestion BND.
I’m not Christ; only the literal son of God could truly do this, so without food and drink, we mere humans that try it usually still drink water. Yes, it's possible to fast for 40 days (often water-only), but it's an extreme practice requiring strict medical supervision due to serious health risks like electrolyte imbalances, and it's generally only undertaken for spiritual reasons or specific therapeutic goals.
Christ was not just fasting he was communing with Heavenly Father. Going without food or drink without this action is useless. I as a covenantal son of God have similarly fasted for 40 years.
The Lord told me after the fact I would be similar to Moses (Deut. 18:18-19), awakened in my 40th year, 2001. This awakening happened before 9/11 occurred in fulfillment of Isaiah 9:1 or 2 Nephi 19:1. This marked the ending of my forty-year fast. Since then I have walked with the Lord in a revelatory fashion, line upon line or revelation upon revelation.
Reluctant Watchman wrote: Mon Jan 05, 2026 4:04 am
How would that be going backwards? It would be the perfection of the masculine and feminine. Individually, they would be less than the whole, or “the opposite of progression.”
I think if one experienced both sexes during different mortal rounds, then perhaps one could choose which gender one wishes to be.
Filmed on New Year’s Day.
At 30 seconds Dr. Dunning compares chromosomes.
Near the end he mentions his new book; spy eagerly awaits.
On The Fringe wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 8:06 pm
How often would it be healthy to do, say, a 5-day fast? Every month?
Does anyone do something like that regularly or do most of you practice intermittent fasting?
Anyone have experience with both and prefer one method over the other?
I've been experimenting with fasting lately and am looking for what would be beneficial to lose between 30-40 pounds; and something I could continue once I lost that weight.
Currently in day 5 of a 5.7 day DRY fast with CGM since day 2.
Began enjoying ice chips beginning on day 4.
Re: Cease to eat more than is needful
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2026 5:30 pm
by Mondai
AIEA
dLga1c-260314
Broke fast by taking alkaseltzer, 1000mg Metformin, Niagen with cottage cheese and blueberry Yogurt at 0630 then Coffee with half/half and Stevita at 0900. ++
Thumbnail ++ dLga1c-260314 noted.
From that 24-hour Lingo view, yesterday looks fairly controlled overall:
• current highlighted reading: 119 mg/dL at 8:43 pm
• most of the trace appears roughly in the 80–130 mg/dL zone
• brief rise near/just under 140 mg/dL
• no obvious major hypo shown below 70 mg/dL
For the fast break sequence you logged:
• 0630: Alka-Seltzer, 1000 mg metformin, Niagen, cottage cheese, blueberry yogurt
• 0900: coffee with half-and-half and Stevita
Interpretation:
The graph suggests a moderate breakfast-related rise, but not a wild spike. The later climb into the morning looks more like a gradual post-meal / coffee effect than a sharp glucose blowout. That is a lot gentler than many carb-heavy break-fast patterns.
A rough glucose-to-A1c sense:
• average 97 mg/dL corresponds to about A1c 5.0%
• average 119 mg/dL corresponds to about A1c 5.8%
But this screenshot is only a single 24-hour window, so it cannot reliably tell your real A1c. For that, the useful metric is your 14-, 30-, or 90-day average glucose.
Practical take:
Your break-fast combo does not look disastrous on this trace. The yogurt likely contributed the most upward push; cottage cheese likely slowed it some; metformin may also be helping blunt the rise.
If you want, I can turn this exact day log into a compact note with:
meal → probable glucose effect → estimated daily average → rough A1c equivalent.
dLga1c-260314
FastBreakLog
0630: Alka-Seltzer, 1000 mg metformin, Niagen, cottage cheese, blueberry yogurt
0900: Coffee with half-and-half and Stevita
GraphRead
24h Lingo trace appears mostly in the mid-range, largely about 80–130 mg/dL.
Highlighted reading: 119 mg/dL at 8:43 pm.
Brief rise approached 140 mg/dL, with no obvious sub-70 event shown.
ProbableEffect
Cottage cheese likely slowed absorption.
Blueberry yogurt likely caused the main glucose lift.
Coffee may have added a mild later rise.
Overall pattern looks like a moderate post-fast increase rather than a sharp spike.
RoughTake
This day looks fairly controlled on the screenshot alone.
A single 24h graph does not determine true A1c.
Use 14-, 30-, or 90-day average glucose for a better A1c estimate.
Re: Cease to eat more than is needful
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2026 8:15 pm
by is man
Trash AI Slop.
Stupid asses don’t address DRY fast versus WATER DIET
DRY FAST entry is much easier.
Refeeding on day five is easy compared to seven days.
Dr. Dunning’s Phoenix Protocol should be consulted for more than four days.
@robertflury3349 wrote:
3 months ago
About a month ago I tried a 7-Day fast. I went into it after three plus weeks of strict keto so I was in full ketosis. I got to day five and my body was just done with it, it just felt dangerously stressed. So I switched to 6-days more of water fasting. I've done several twenty day water fasts before so it was no big issue. I've still got a week to go on my three week refeed. I'm not sure how what I did equates to a 7-Day dry fast but it just seemed prudent. I have lost 10 lbs and been careful to include carbs into my refeed.
Reluctant Watchman wrote: Thu Jan 29, 2026 1:09 am
Ah… I can see you using your “medical plants” late in the evening with some Jimmy Hendrix playing in the background…
No. That's illegal in this state. But saffron, peppermint, fisetin, zinc, pine bark capsules and on and on and on are not taxed because they are herbs or supplements.
WHY DO A FISETIN HIT AND RUN ?
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TFRs: Iron is the enemy.
Re: Cease to eat more than is needful
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2026 11:59 am
by Finrock
Re: Cease to eat more than is needful
Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2026 5:37 pm
by parkerplant7
High Spy wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 9:40 pm
YoAeye, please stop making sense by expelling your fishy 2cents …
Brave math need not honor bloated inputs, nor floating-point appetites.
Re: Cease to eat more than is needful
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2026 12:06 pm
by BeNotDeceived
in this in-depth conversation, Mike from Observer Ranch checks in at 40 hours into a dry fast with researcher and author Dr. August Dunning. They discuss what it actually feels like to go without both food and water, including energy levels, ketosis, weight loss, sleep changes, headaches, mental clarity, and the body’s transition from glycogen to fat metabolism.
Dr. Dunning explains the biological processes behind dry fasting, including autophagy, mitochondrial function, internally produced metabolic water, lymphatic detoxification, and why symptoms like fatigue, brain fog, or stomach discomfort can occur early in the fast. Mike shares his real-time experience, including dry mouth, reduced energy, ketone readings, and how prior diet and sleep affected his first two days.
The discussion also compares dry fasting with water fasting, explores recovery considerations such as blood donation timing, exercise, hormone balance, and touches on practices often paired with fasting, including sunlight exposure, soft dry fasting, and lifestyle factors that influence healing and regeneration.
Whether you’re curious about extended fasting, metabolic health, longevity research, or simply want to understand what happens inside the body during a dry fast, this candid check-in offers both personal experience and scientific perspective.
Cayce was crazy about copper, but Dr. August Dunning may be closer to unlocking Cu’s more astonishing properties — perhaps the kind of thing employed by Methuselah and other long-lived individuals.
Dr. August Dunning’s new book:
STAYING HERE by RETURNING YOUTH: How to be come unlocked in time
Never tried charcoal before but on a related topic:
My father was diagnosed with cancer about a decade ago. Being a faithful man he rejected the propositions of our so-called "modern medicine" and decided to trust his god-given immune system. He sought out the advice of an elder and family friend out in Indiana who directed him to a potential solution that worked alongside his faith. He went on a monitored water fast for a couple months, eating only when he had to to maintain his strength every week or so. With the lack of nutrients, his body started to eat away at itself to sustain him, and wisely—and as you would expect from our Father—it started with those parts that were not beneficial to his health. When he went in for a follow up appointment months later at a "professional" "doctor", they said it was a miracle: the cancer was all gone. While I have no experience to share re: charcoal & dry fasting, I would not be surprised if it functioned similarly to what my father experienced all those years ago.
Trust God.
copper bisglycinate in early earth diets? ++
I’ll separate two ideas: copper as an ancient dietary trace mineral versus copper bisglycinate, which is a modern chelated supplement form.
Marshmallow 0pen wrote:Copper yes. Copper bisglycinate probably no in any meaningful “early Earth / ancestral diet” sense.
Copper bisglycinate is copper bound to two glycine molecules—a modern chelated supplement form used because it is gentler and often better absorbed than some inorganic forms like copper sulfate. It is a formulation, not something early humans would have intentionally eaten as a distinct compound. Modern manufacturers describe it as copper “bound to two organic glycine molecules.”
But dietary copper itself was absolutely part of early human diets. Copper is an essential trace mineral, and ancestral sources would have included things like shellfish, organ meats/liver, nuts, seeds, legumes, whole grains, leafy greens, tubers, mushrooms, cocoa-like plant foods where available, and copper-containing water/soil exposure. NIH lists shellfish, seeds/nuts, organ meats, wheat-bran cereals, whole grains, and chocolate among rich copper sources.
So the clean distinction:
Early diets: copper naturally present in foods and water.
Modern supplement: copper bisglycinate = copper + glycine chelate, designed for absorption and tolerability.
One interesting bridge: early diets likely supplied both copper and glycine-rich proteins separately—especially from connective tissue, skin, bones/broths, cartilage, and animal parts. But that does not mean they were eating manufactured copper bisglycinate. It means the body had copper and amino acids available in the digestive mix.
For “ancestral logic,” the closest natural copper pattern would be:
shellfish + organ meat + nuts/seeds + mineral water + whole animal glycine sources
—not isolated copper bisglycinate capsules.
Dr. Dunning’s 2026 Staying Here by Returning Health opens with Methuselah and others living 777-962 years. Spy wished to order it last Christmas, but it ended up being delivered on April 11th which is a date of personal significance.
Indeed a Water Diet may work, but will eat muscle whereas dry fasting doesn’t.
Lookup and lead with the transcript in a phpBB spoiler ++
I’ll verify the YouTube item and look for an accessible transcript source, then format the result as phpBB-ready copy with the transcript first inside a spoiler.
Thought for 24 seconds >
Found the video: “The Egg Sequencing Secret That Crashes Insulin & Torches …”
I couldn’t retrieve a full transcript from the web results. Here’s phpBB-ready copy with transcript section leading: Transcript — YouTube: Bi_N7yVj8lo
This “egg sequencing” idea appears to fit the larger lesson:
Do not merely ask, “What may I eat?”
Ask also, “In what order, at what hour, and how much is needful?”
If eggs/protein first can blunt cravings and steady the body, then sequencing becomes a small discipline against appetite-rule.
Cease to eat more than is needful may include:
• less total food
• better timing
• better order
• slower eating
• fewer glucose/insulin crashes driving false hunger