Book of Mormon Land is England Thread

[Valo]

Re: Hello, Possums
https://discussmormonism.com/viewtopic. ... 3#p2860483

Aww. That sounds exhausting.

Visiting just now, there was a Narrow Neck of Land thread that could be enlightened that the BOM lands were revealed to be across the ocean. Originally stated as being in England, but later clarified. But yeah, if demonstration earthquakes didn’t get the point across, then expending energy on stiff necked people will likely only lead to excruciating exhaustion.

(You can lead a horse to water, but he may refuse hydrating.)

In boxing or in other martial arts you are trying to create "stiff necks" in order to defeat the opponent, win the prize, and impress all the hot chicks (and others)!

[BeNotDeceived]

Look, Listen and Learn the three Ls in HeLL.

[Finrock]

https://x.com/Thekeksociety/status/1837 ... IMakQ&s=19

[Finrock]

First of all the Spirit out of the blue told me that the BoM land was England. I was not contemplating the subject or in the least interested in the subject. I thought it was a fairytale. So why would I be bothered looking for a fairytale. Anyway I did not do anything about it until about a year and a half later when the Spirit told me to tell them about England. It took me a minute or so to remember what about England I'm supposed to tell them about. When I did remember I made the OP on the subject. The OP is not in OD at LDSFF. I don't remember in what forum it's in. The title though is, England.

1) England can fit because when they first arrived they were on an island of the sea
2) There are four great seas, Atlantic Ocean, North Sea, English Channel and Celtic Sea
3) There is the Clyde River that flows south to north
4) The Clyde empties into the western sea from which one can sail north
5) On an island in northern Canada there is Clyde River Hamlet
6) Clyde and Sidon are linguistically similar, they both have cyde/side in them
7) Corn is an old English word meaning kernel of grain
8) Iron working started about the right time in England
9) Chariots from about 400bc iirc were found in Pembroke
10) Roman histories describe the lamanites perfectly including that they did not use breastplates
11) Roman map places the lamanites exactly where the BoM say they are
12) Roman histories describe a land of desolation north of "the wall"
13) The BoM line of fortification matches the Antonine wall perfectly including walking distance
14) That is also where the narrow neck of land is that is also the correct walking distance
15) Scotland is known to have glaciers even into the 1700s
16) The narrow strip of land is where Hadrian's wall was built
17) Zarahemla is to the south and their religion is identical to Roman Mithraism
18) The headwaters of Sidon are north of Zarahemla, the headwaters of Clyde are north of Hadrian's wall
19) The Nephites migrated north, the Damnonii migrated north disappearing around 400ad

Is all that taken together proof? I think it is!

https://www.britam.org/

The Lost Ten Tribes will comprise a "Brit-Am", or Confederation of People(s).

[Isaiah 42:6]
" I THE LORD HAVE CALLED THEE IN RIGHTEOUSNESS, AND WILL HOLD THINE HAND, AND WILL KEEP THEE, AND GIVE THEE FOR A COVENANT OF THE PEOPLE [Hebrew: "Brit-Am"], FOR A LIGHT OF THE GENTILES;"

<<A COVENANT OF THE PEOPLE>>: in Hebrew "Brit-Am". Israel will be a Brit-Am. In the Middle Ages Britain sometimes referred to herself as Britammia. The Welsh called themselves, Bryth y Brithan, or Briths of Brithan [Charles A. L. Totten: ‘The Romance of History: Lost Israel Found’, USA, 1890].

In Biblical Hebrew "brith" means covenant.

The Rabbinical Biblical Commentator Malbim says that Brit-Am means Israel.

[Finrock]

If you are of British descent (Irish, Scottish, etc.) you have a high chance of being an Israelites. Same with Scandanavia. That's where the 10 tribes went. Dan started worshipping Moloch before Judah did. Dan spread the gospel of Moloch throughout ancient Israel. These tribes, worshipping Moloch, spread throughout Europe, Britain, and North Countries.

Judah is complicit but so are the Gentiles, the Israelites who have mingled themselves with the god of this world. Judah didn't accomplish all it has accomplished alone.

The religion of Moloch ties all these seemingly disparate groups together. Lay people are fooled but passed middle management, its purposeful worship and bringing about the designs of their god, who is not Christ.

Pointing to Judah and saying there is the demon is like pointing to one head of a hydra and saying that's all there is.

If you are ignorant I get it, but if you aren't its purposefully trying to cover up the rest of the Beast.

[The Wicker Man]

If you are of British descent (Irish, Scottish, etc.) you have a high chance of being an Israelites. Same with Scandanavia. That's where the 10 tribes went. Dan started worshipping Moloch before Judah did. Dan spread the gospel of Moloch throughout ancient Israel. These tribes, worshipping Moloch, spread throughout Europe, Britain, and North Countries.

Judah is complicit but so are the Gentiles, the Israelites who have mingled themselves with the god of this world. Judah didn't accomplish all it has accomplished alone.

The religion of Moloch ties all these seemingly disparate groups together. Lay people are fooled but passed middle management, its purposeful worship and bringing about the designs of their god, who is not Christ.

Pointing to Judah and saying there is the demon is like pointing to one head of a hydra and saying that's all there is.

If you are ignorant I get it, but if you aren't its purposefully trying to cover up the rest of the Beast.

Netanyahu once said that if the Jews had not been persecuted over the centuries that the Jews would number over 300 million today. That is just three tribes. And the Jews did not get the blessing of great numbers. Israel got that blessing. So the lost ten tribes would number well over a billion people today.

[Finrock]

If you are of British descent (Irish, Scottish, etc.) you have a high chance of being an Israelites. Same with Scandanavia. That's where the 10 tribes went. Dan started worshipping Moloch before Judah did. Dan spread the gospel of Moloch throughout ancient Israel. These tribes, worshipping Moloch, spread throughout Europe, Britain, and North Countries.

Judah is complicit but so are the Gentiles, the Israelites who have mingled themselves with the god of this world. Judah didn't accomplish all it has accomplished alone.

The religion of Moloch ties all these seemingly disparate groups together. Lay people are fooled but passed middle management, its purposeful worship and bringing about the designs of their god, who is not Christ.

Pointing to Judah and saying there is the demon is like pointing to one head of a hydra and saying that's all there is.

If you are ignorant I get it, but if you aren't its purposefully trying to cover up the rest of the Beast.

Netanyahu once said that if the Jews had not been persecuted over the centuries that the Jews would number over 300 million today. That is just three tribes. And the Jews did not get the blessing of great numbers. Israel got that blessing. So the lost ten tribes would number well over a billion people today.

Judah, Benjamin, and who is the thrid?

[Finrock]

If you are of British descent (Irish, Scottish, etc.) you have a high chance of being an Israelites. Same with Scandanavia. That's where the 10 tribes went. Dan started worshipping Moloch before Judah did. Dan spread the gospel of Moloch throughout ancient Israel. These tribes, worshipping Moloch, spread throughout Europe, Britain, and North Countries.

Judah is complicit but so are the Gentiles, the Israelites who have mingled themselves with the god of this world. Judah didn't accomplish all it has accomplished alone.

The religion of Moloch ties all these seemingly disparate groups together. Lay people are fooled but passed middle management, its purposeful worship and bringing about the designs of their god, who is not Christ.

Pointing to Judah and saying there is the demon is like pointing to one head of a hydra and saying that's all there is.

If you are ignorant I get it, but if you aren't its purposefully trying to cover up the rest of the Beast.

Netanyahu once said that if the Jews had not been persecuted over the centuries that the Jews would number over 300 million today. That is just three tribes. And the Jews did not get the blessing of great numbers. Israel got that blessing. So the lost ten tribes would number well over a billion people today.

Judah, Benjamin, and who is the thrid?

Levi?

[The Wicker Man]

Netanyahu once said that if the Jews had not been persecuted over the centuries that the Jews would number over 300 million today. That is just three tribes. And the Jews did not get the blessing of great numbers. Israel got that blessing. So the lost ten tribes would number well over a billion people today.

Judah, Benjamin, and who is the thrid?

Levi?

Yes

[Finrock]

Judah, Benjamin, and who is the thrid?

Levi?

Yes

I've been doing some research and it is quiet evident that the lost tribes, like Dan, which settled modern day Denmark, for instance, they also scattered to British Isles, rest of Europe and Scandinavian countries. Iisachar might even be the Finns!

This adds credence to the Book of Mormon took place primarily on the British Isles. I have to find it again but I also came across a research site dedicated to the subject where I learned Nephtalite...

"The term “Nephtalite” is actually an adjective meaning “a member of the Hebrew tribe of Naphtali”, according to Merriam-Webster’s dictionary. It is not a proper noun referring to a specific individual."

Naphtali commanded his family not to join with tribe Joseph but instead to join up with Levi and Judah. Granted Naphtali tribe is not known to have migrated to British Isles although "Nordisk Israel identify the Tribe of Naphtali with Norway."

I also learned that the descendents of tribe Levi likely became the druid class within these regions.

The idea that Brit-Am is also a Hebrew word, People of the Covenant. Britain, Bryths, etc.

Good stuff!

[Finrock]

24 Video Series on Lost Tribes

[BeNotDeceived]

Re: Book of Mormon Geography
https://discussmormonism.com/viewtopic. ... 9#p2854899

Still waiting for the "prophets, seers, and revelators" to cough up the truth about the Book of Mormon geography.

Why won't they just do it? Is Heavenly Father testing us?

In the scientific age, seems counter-productive. After all, isn't Heavenly Father a master scientist?

viewtopic.php?p=1763&hilit=Spirit#p1763

Stuffs been regurgitated many times over, but most are too blind to see.

Latter-day Seers
^{https://ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.p ... 9#p1514379}

2 Ne 27:5 For behold, the Lord hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep. For behold, ye have closed your eyes, and ye have rejected the prophets; and your rulers, and the seers hath he covered because of your iniquity.

There has been a lot of debate over a passage that probably does not mean what it is thought to mean.

Because the people closed their eyes meaning they refused to see what was right in front of them God caused their eyes to be permanently closed by equating that situation to a deep sleep. At that point the seers are covered by the spirit of deep sleep that has been placed upon the people. The seers are still seers but no matter what they reveal they are covered from sight because the people's eyes are shut.

That's pretty much what I was saying.

Evidence abounds here and elsewhere.

[BeNotDeceived]

The British Model is Growing Legs
^{https://ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.p ... 1#p1549471}

Hot air being blown up my skirt. I thought arguing with larsenb about BofM geography in Meso American was head banging frustrating. I would side with him any day over England.

How would you explain 2 Nephi 10?

10 But behold, this land, said God, shall be a land of thine inheritance, and the Gentiles shall be blessed upon the land.

11 And this land shall be a land of liberty unto the Gentiles, and there shall be no kings upon the land, who shall raise up unto the Gentiles.

12 And I will fortify this land against all other nations.

If England is the “Promised land” why in the heck did people leave in droves in the 1800’s?

I don’t see it in any way shape or form a land of liberty. (Even though I owe my very being to my mostly English ancestors)

1 And now I, Jacob, speak unto you again, my beloved brethren, concerning this righteous branch of which I have spoken.

There is a righteous branch that will survive the slaughter.


2 2 For behold, the promises which we have obtained are promises unto us according to the flesh; wherefore, as it has been shown unto me that many of our children shall perish in the flesh because of unbelief, nevertheless, God will be merciful unto many; and our children shall be restored, that they may come to that which will give them the true knowledge of their Redeemer.

The righteous branch will be restored.

7 But behold, thus saith the Lord God: When the day cometh that they shall believe in me, that I am Christ, then have I covenanted with their fathers that they shall be restored in the flesh, upon the earth, unto the lands of their inheritance.

Now we are back to the righteous branch and they will be restored to the land of their inheritance.

8 And it shall come to pass that they shall be gathered in from their long dispersion, from the isles of the sea, and from the four parts of the earth; and the nations of the Gentiles shall be great in the eyes of me, saith God, in carrying them forth to the lands of their inheritance.

9 Yea, the kings of the Gentiles shall be nursing fathers unto them, and their queens shall become nursing mothers; wherefore, the promises of the Lord are great unto the Gentiles, for he hath spoken it, and who can dispute?

Many gentile nations helped the young America.

10 But behold, this land, said God, shall be a land of thine inheritance, and the Gentiles shall be blessed upon the land.

11 11 And this land shall be a land of liberty unto the Gentiles, and there shall be no kings upon the land, who shall raise up unto the Gentiles.

As I have explained many times already the righteous branch arrived in this land America in 1620 on the Mayflower. Since this land is the latest incarnation of Israel in exile and God promised David that there would always be a descendant of his ruling upon his throne there will not be any kings from among the Gentiles.

During Book of Mormon times they were on an isle of the sea. Only later (in 1620) did the Remnant come to this land which is America.

Asked and answered.

Frog legs too.

[High Spy]

England -- The British model is growing legs!
^{https://ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.p ... 3#p1550543}

If you are implying that I have a presence on those other sites I have not talked about it outside of LDSFF. If it has journeyed to other sites it was not by my doing. Considering this subject has over 45000 views it was bound to happen.

Then how do you know?

The Spirt of Truth spoke truth you silly goose.

[High Spy]

Still waiting for the "prophets, seers, and revelators" to cough up the truth about the Book of Mormon geography.

Why won't they just do it? Is Heavenly Father testing us?

In the scientific age, seems counter-productive. After all, isn't Heavenly Father a master scientist?

Re: The Keys of the Kingdom of Heaven Explained
https://ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.p ... 8#p1551638

I guess you missed my point, Jesus who manifested the Christ said His Church would be built upon this Rock, meaning it was to be built & guided by Seers. I can't state it any plainer than that.

Seers sometimes see things better in hindsight, which is wise of them lest they suffer the fate of Korihor.

-- the answer to the practice test question is a 5.7 and a pair of 6.2s on the 38th day of a recent poll.