This video got me thinking about who wrote the Book of Jonah, and how we have record of it

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This video got me thinking about who wrote the Book of Jonah, and how we have record of it

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BeNotDeceived wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 12:12 pm
https://slogbog.com/viewtopic.php?p=1604#p1604 wrote:
High Spy wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 12:05 pm


This video got me thinking about who wrote the Book of Jonah, and how we have record of it. Jonah spoke once, much the same as Mike has done.

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High Spy wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 12:22 pm Re: This video got me thinking about who wrote the Book of Jonah, and how we have record of it.
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BeNotDeceived wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 12:12 pm
I watched it and I felt it had some neat information and the good news is there is more to Jonah than even what was presented. In fact I would disagree that the main point of the story is about "prophets". I also think his view was very much influenced by LDS tradition and thus it included many of the errors found in that tradition.

I'm gonna rewatch it and if I feel inspired to write more I will.

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"Jonah Themes in Pinocchio

With that in mind, we now turn to Pinocchio. What is the story really about? In the story of a wooden puppet who longs to be a real boy. But since he constantly disobeys his maker/father, Geppetto, he finds himself led astray by various people. Geppetto, though, because he loves Pinocchio, goes out searching for him, and travels across the sea, only to be swallowed by a sea monster.

When Pinocchio finally finds his way home and discovers that Geppetto went out searching for him, he goes to find Geppetto. His journey takes him across the sea, where he too gets swallowed by that same “sea monster.” Eventually Pinocchio helps Geppetto escape from the sea monster, and because of his brave deed, the Blue Fairy grants Pinocchio his wish, and turns him into a real boy. What we see in this fairy tale, therefore, is the story of a wooden puppet who is “re-created” into a real boy, only after a death-like experience in the sea monster. This speaks to a very fundamental Christian belief.

In his book Mere Christianity, C.S. Lewis explains sanctification by using the example of a tin toy soldier. Essentially, human beings in their natural state, having what Lewis calls bios life, are like tin soldiers. We have the shape of men. One can push the analogy further by quoting Genesis 1:27: we are made in the image of God. Yet we do not have the life of God, the Christ-life, within us. The story of the Gospel is essentially this: Christ became a tin soldier so that he could impart his life, what Lewis calls zoe life, to us. Thus, the entire Christian life is one of a Christian slowly being transformed and recreated from a tin toy soldier into a real man.

Lewis makes many other observations and points concerning this, but for our purposes the basic analogy is enough. It is this analogy that can be seen in the fairytale Pinocchio—the wooden puppet is given animated life, but is not yet a real boy. The story thus tells about his trials and attempts to become a real living boy. The story is about transformation and re-creation.

One can see numerous analogies between the story of Pinocchio and the biblical understanding of sin and salvation. The wooden puppet Pinocchio is not really “evil,” but rather is very gullible and is easily led astray. When you think about it, isn’t this what we see with Adam and Eve in Genesis 3? No one who reads Genesis 3 honestly can conclude that the actions of Adam and Eve were “evil and devious.” They seem more like gullible children. This, incidentally, is the very view that the early Church Father Irenaeus had of Genesis 3 back in the 2nd century.

That is why it is so easy to see ourselves in the story of Adam and Eve—it is basically our story. Let’s face it, everyone can simply look at their own life admit that, while there certainly are many times one consciously and knowingly sins, there are also many times “sin” happens due to one’s immaturity, gullibility, and ignorance.

Pinocchio and Whale

Pinocchio, like everyone at some point, finds that he is lost. It is at this point in the story where the Jonah theme of re-creation/death and resurrection is apparent. In order to find his maker and father, Pinocchio journeys into the sea and is swallowed by a sea monster. It is within the belly of the sea monster where Pinocchio meets his maker and father Geppetto again. The story ends by Gepetto and Pinocchio escaping from the great fish, getting chased by him on the sea, and eventually reaching dry land safely. Because Pinocchio proved himself brave by going into the sea in search for his maker and father, his wish to become a real boy is granted. It is his experience within the belly of the great fish that transforms Pinocchio from a wooden puppet into a real boy.

The story of Pinocchio is not like Jonah in every respect. It does not have anything about Pinocchio preaching to other puppets that they would be made into firewood, and it does not have Pinocchio complain to Geppetto that those cursed alarm clocks Geppetto had in his workshop should be destroyed. Pinocchio simply takes one snapshot from the story of Jonah, a snapshot everyone is familiar with, and reworks and reinterprets that snapshot within a very memorable fairytale. The basic theme of going into death (symbolized by the great fish), and being transformed and reborn (re-creation into a real boy) is nevertheless retained. Pinocchio is, in fact, a modern example of intertextuality."

https://www.joeledmundanderson.com/bibl ... -creation/

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https://www.offshore-energy.biz/global-otec-starts-testing-scaled-designs-for-plotec-project/ wrote:
We gained some vital insights that will inform the next iteration of our design
Noah or Noe is interesting too, as the current iteration in the creative process locks in on a 3/8” axle.

The debt crisis is ramping up an exponential curve. Answers will be needed soon.

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High Spy wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 10:24 am
https://www.offshore-energy.biz/global-otec-starts-testing-scaled-designs-for-plotec-project/ wrote:
We gained some vital insights that will inform the next iteration of our design
Noah or Noe is interesting too, as the current iteration in the creative process locks in on a 3/8” axle.

The debt crisis is ramping up an exponential curve. Answers will be needed soon.
I also think the precarious financial situation is tied to "days of Noah" stuff.

Why do you use the word "axle"? 🤔

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merlin wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 6:29 am
High Spy wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 10:24 am
https://www.offshore-energy.biz/global-otec-starts-testing-scaled-designs-for-plotec-project/ wrote:
We gained some vital insights that will inform the next iteration of our design
Noah or Noe is interesting too, as the current iteration in the creative process locks in on a 3/8” axle.

The debt crisis is ramping up an exponential curve. Answers will be needed soon.
I also think the precarious financial situation is tied to "days of Noah" stuff.

Why do you use the word "axle"? 🤔
Hey, welcome merlin!

I am taking a guess but I do believe it's because of the project he has been working on having to do with catapults and rockets 🚀...

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merlin wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 6:29 am
Why do you use the word "axle"? 🤔
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Finrock wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 12:53 am "Jonah Themes in Pinocchio

With that in mind, we now turn to Pinocchio. What is the story really about? In the story of a wooden puppet who longs to be a real boy. But since he constantly disobeys his maker/father, Geppetto, he finds himself led astray by various people. Geppetto, though, because he loves Pinocchio, goes out searching for him, and travels across the sea, only to be swallowed by a sea monster.

When Pinocchio finally finds his way home and discovers that Geppetto went out searching for him, he goes to find Geppetto. His journey takes him across the sea, where he too gets swallowed by that same “sea monster.” Eventually Pinocchio helps Geppetto escape from the sea monster, and because of his brave deed, the Blue Fairy grants Pinocchio his wish, and turns him into a real boy. What we see in this fairy tale, therefore, is the story of a wooden puppet who is “re-created” into a real boy, only after a death-like experience in the sea monster. This speaks to a very fundamental Christian belief.

In his book Mere Christianity, C.S. Lewis explains sanctification by using the example of a tin toy soldier. Essentially, human beings in their natural state, having what Lewis calls bios life, are like tin soldiers. We have the shape of men. One can push the analogy further by quoting Genesis 1:27: we are made in the image of God. Yet we do not have the life of God, the Christ-life, within us. The story of the Gospel is essentially this: Christ became a tin soldier so that he could impart his life, what Lewis calls zoe life, to us. Thus, the entire Christian life is one of a Christian slowly being transformed and recreated from a tin toy soldier into a real man.

Lewis makes many other observations and points concerning this, but for our purposes the basic analogy is enough. It is this analogy that can be seen in the fairytale Pinocchio—the wooden puppet is given animated life, but is not yet a real boy. The story thus tells about his trials and attempts to become a real living boy. The story is about transformation and re-creation.

One can see numerous analogies between the story of Pinocchio and the biblical understanding of sin and salvation. The wooden puppet Pinocchio is not really “evil,” but rather is very gullible and is easily led astray. When you think about it, isn’t this what we see with Adam and Eve in Genesis 3? No one who reads Genesis 3 honestly can conclude that the actions of Adam and Eve were “evil and devious.” They seem more like gullible children. This, incidentally, is the very view that the early Church Father Irenaeus had of Genesis 3 back in the 2nd century.

That is why it is so easy to see ourselves in the story of Adam and Eve—it is basically our story. Let’s face it, everyone can simply look at their own life admit that, while there certainly are many times one consciously and knowingly sins, there are also many times “sin” happens due to one’s immaturity, gullibility, and ignorance.

Pinocchio and Whale

Pinocchio, like everyone at some point, finds that he is lost. It is at this point in the story where the Jonah theme of re-creation/death and resurrection is apparent. In order to find his maker and father, Pinocchio journeys into the sea and is swallowed by a sea monster. It is within the belly of the sea monster where Pinocchio meets his maker and father Geppetto again. The story ends by Gepetto and Pinocchio escaping from the great fish, getting chased by him on the sea, and eventually reaching dry land safely. Because Pinocchio proved himself brave by going into the sea in search for his maker and father, his wish to become a real boy is granted. It is his experience within the belly of the great fish that transforms Pinocchio from a wooden puppet into a real boy.

The story of Pinocchio is not like Jonah in every respect. It does not have anything about Pinocchio preaching to other puppets that they would be made into firewood, and it does not have Pinocchio complain to Geppetto that those cursed alarm clocks Geppetto had in his workshop should be destroyed. Pinocchio simply takes one snapshot from the story of Jonah, a snapshot everyone is familiar with, and reworks and reinterprets that snapshot within a very memorable fairytale. The basic theme of going into death (symbolized by the great fish), and being transformed and reborn (re-creation into a real boy) is nevertheless retained. Pinocchio is, in fact, a modern example of intertextuality."

https://www.joeledmundanderson.com/bibl ... -creation/

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merlin wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 6:29 am
High Spy wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 10:24 am
https://www.offshore-energy.biz/global-otec-starts-testing-scaled-designs-for-plotec-project/ wrote:
We gained some vital insights that will inform the next iteration of our design
The debt crisis is ramping up an exponential curve. Answers will be needed soon.
I also think the precarious financial situation is tied to "days of Noah" stuff.
The financial situation is untenable.

Stocks are in the toilet.

How does Ezra’s Eagle play out. :?:

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merlin wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 6:29 am
High Spy wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 10:24 am
https://www.offshore-energy.biz/global-otec-starts-testing-scaled-designs-for-plotec-project/ wrote:
We gained some vital insights that will inform the next iteration of our design
Noah or Noe is interesting too, as the current iteration in the creative process locks in on a 3/8” axle.

The debt crisis is ramping up an exponential curve. Answers will be needed soon.
I also think the precarious financial situation is tied to "days of Noah" stuff.

Why do you use the word "axle"? 🤔


The exodus was a next iteration too.

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merlin wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 6:29 am
High Spy wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 10:24 am
https://www.offshore-energy.biz/global-otec-starts-testing-scaled-designs-for-plotec-project/ wrote:
We gained some vital insights that will inform the next iteration of our design
Noah or Noe is interesting too, as the current iteration in the creative process locks in on a 3/8” axle.

The debt crisis is ramping up an exponential curve. Answers will be needed soon.
I also think the precarious financial situation is tied to "days of Noah" stuff.

Why do you use the word "axle"? 🤔
https://www.energyportal.eu/news/unlock ... rgy/37450/

Why were you curious about the word “axle”. :?:

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merlin wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 6:29 am
High Spy wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 10:24 am
https://www.offshore-energy.biz/global-otec-starts-testing-scaled-designs-for-plotec-project/ wrote:
We gained some vital insights that will inform the next iteration of our design
Noah or Noe is interesting too, as the current iteration in the creative process locks in on a 3/8” axle.

The debt crisis is ramping up an exponential curve. Answers will be needed soon.
I also think the precarious financial situation is tied to "days of Noah" stuff.

Why do you use the word "axle"? 🤔


The axle is now a 3/8” threaded rod, used without bushings under the care of a master metal worker. 8-)

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merlin wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 6:29 am
High Spy wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 10:24 am
https://www.offshore-energy.biz/global-otec-starts-testing-scaled-designs-for-plotec-project/ wrote:
We gained some vital insights that will inform the next iteration of our design
Noah or Noe is interesting too, as the current iteration in the creative process locks in on a 3/8” axle.

The debt crisis is ramping up an exponential curve. Answers will be needed soon.
I also think the precarious financial situation is tied to "days of Noah" stuff.

Why do you use the word "axle"? 🤔


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https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message5651856/pg1 wrote:
Re: The 2024 leap day will fall on February 29th add 40 days= April 8th 2024. “Forty more days and Nineveh will be overthrown.

Now the second Great American Eclipse is almost here, and the path of that eclipse will cross over seven U.S. locations named “Ninevah”…

-Nineveh, Texas

-Nineveh, Missouri

-Nineveh, Indiana

-Nineveh, Ohio

-Nineveh, Pennsylvania

-Nineveh, Virginia

-Nineveh, New York

The eclipse will also cross over a location named “Ninevah” in the province of Nova Scotia in Canada.

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merlin wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 6:29 am
High Spy wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 10:24 am
https://www.offshore-energy.biz/global-otec-starts-testing-scaled-designs-for-plotec-project/ wrote:
We gained some vital insights that will inform the next iteration of our design
Noah or Noe is interesting too, as the current iteration in the creative process locks in on a 3/8” axle.

The debt crisis is ramping up an exponential curve. Answers will be needed soon.
I also think the precarious financial situation is tied to "days of Noah" stuff.

Why do you use the word "axle"? 🤔
5 Minutes 7 seconds. :-)


viewtopic.php?p=2768&hilit=TUE+moody#p2768 The axle pivots to you and a guy named Moody too.

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Maybe Moody guy makes 3. :?

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Imwashingmypirate wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 6:58 am
It was the numbers at the bottom of my image I was showing you in relation to poste. I noticed the 2222. Googled it at the time last night and it said about balance. The universe is beautiful when we look at fractals and patterns in nature. How perfect everything is when we take away human consciousness and human interference. Like, even how our senses work. Our brain is able to take pressure and turn it into sounds that mean something, they eye ball can take a bunch of electrical signals from photons and create an image that makes sense. Just being reminded of the things I was interested in when I was younger.

I'm seeing your numbers now. Think you've infiltrated my brain lol. I'm not concerned. What is meant to be will be. Life is love. We vibrate with our intentions and if we love and care then that should get us somewhere. Right?
https://ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.p ... 0#p1471566

Did things change in 2010?

And why would they? Enlighten me.

2010 is when the seventh seal opened. That’s when the silence in heaven began. Only one has posted here about hearing from a truthful spirit, and he posted what the conclusion to my received message was.
I noticed 8 feet 3 inches tall and thought how our date formats are reversed which leads to 84 signifying warning. Reverse CH and you get HC which makes me think of Hotel California thereby continuing the warning theme. Angels open seals and sound warnings … 0000CF above represents my dad (Cleamont Francis) and my mom whose first name begins with C, such that together their return address began with CF Stout. They’re who named me after the guy that almost got the world blowed up.

Not sure why TWM wished to cooperate with his spirit and orchestrate demonstration earthquakes, but the evidence clearly exists, that a demonstration indeed took place. The Lackluster response Likely Leads to things not so easily discounted. California, but not Hotel is another word tuple formulated with a duplicate letter before the first comma, but not a double letter like this string of words and the previous arboretum post. 🌴 🌴

Sentence, but not string of words is another tuple of said type. 🌴 🌴

Christ, but not Crist is the most amazing word tuple. 🐳

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In addition to my previous post about 2010:
https://www.motherjones.com/mojo-wire/2 ... sgivukkah/
Trans Day of Visibility has fallen on March 31 since it was created in 2010 by Rachel Crandall-Crocker, the executive director of Transgender Michigan.
March 31st in 2020 is when my kids where shaken by an earthquake on my son’s birthday. 🥳

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