Slog Bog

This thread is to document everything we can about what God has taught His children about Zion in the standard works.

If the post doesn't contain a scripture, it will be removed.

Let's see what we can learn!

Let's do it!

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Here's the list of scriptures where the word "Zion" appears.

I'm going to dump it, and then separate it later.

I'm going to move much, much more slowly over here than I do at LDSFF.

Be patient with me.

We're going somewhere with this:

2 Kings 19:21 This is the word that the Lord hath spoken concerning him; The virgin the daughter of Zion hath despised thee, and laughed thee to scorn; the daughter of Jerusalem hath shaken her head at thee.
Psalms 48:11 Let mount Zion rejoice, let the daughters of Judah be glad, because of thy judgments.
Psalms 78:68 But chose the tribe of Judah, the mount Zion which he loved.
Psalms 84:7 They go from strength to strength, every one of them in Zion appeareth before God.
Psalms 87:2 The Lord loveth the gates of Zion more than all the dwellings of Jacob.
Psalms 87:5 And of Zion it shall be said, This and that man was born in her: and the highest himself shall establish her.
Psalms 97:8 Zion heard, and was glad; and the daughters of Judah rejoiced because of thy judgments, O Lord.
Psalms 149:2 Let Israel rejoice in him that made him: let the children of Zion be joyful in their King.
Isaiah 1:8 And the daughter of Zion is left as a cottage in a vineyard, as a lodge in a garden of cucumbers, as a besieged city.
Isaiah 1:27 Zion shall be redeemed with judgment, and her converts with righteousness.
Isaiah 2:3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.
Isaiah 3:16 Moreover the Lord saith, Because the daughters of Zion are haughty, and walk with stretched forth necks and wanton eyes, walking and mincing as they go, and making a tinkling with their feet:
Isaiah 10:12 Wherefore it shall come to pass, that when the Lord hath performed his whole work upon mount Zion and on Jerusalem, I will punish the fruit of the stout heart of the king of Assyria, and the glory of his high looks.
Isaiah 28:16 Therefore thus saith the Lord God, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.
Isaiah 30:19 For the people shall dwell in Zion at Jerusalem: thou shalt weep no more: he will be very gracious unto thee at the voice of thy cry; when he shall hear it, he will answer thee.
Isaiah 33:5 The Lord is exalted; for he dwelleth on high: he hath filled Zion with judgment and righteousness.
Isaiah 33:14 The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?
Isaiah 35:10 And the ransomed of the Lord shall return, and come to Zion with songs and everlasting joy upon their heads: they shall obtain joy and gladness, and sorrow and sighing shall flee away.
Isaiah 46:13 I bring near my righteousness; it shall not be far off, and my salvation shall not tarry: and I will place salvation in Zion for Israel my glory.
Isaiah 49:14 But Zion said, The Lord hath forsaken me, and my Lord hath forgotten me.
Isaiah 60:14 The sons also of them that afflicted thee shall come bending unto thee; and all they that despised thee shall bow themselves down at the soles of thy feet; and they shall call thee, The city of the Lord, The Zion of the Holy One of Israel.
Isaiah 64:10 Thy holy cities are a wilderness, Zion is a wilderness, Jerusalem a desolation.
Isaiah 66:8 Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.
Jeremiah 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate woman.
Jeremiah 26:18 Micah the Morasthite prophesied in the days of Hezekiah king of Judah, and spake to all the people of Judah, saying, Thus saith the Lord of hosts; Zion shall be plowed like a field, and Jerusalem shall become heaps, and the mountain of the house as the high places of a forest.
Jeremiah 31:6 For there shall be a day, that the watchmen upon the mount Ephraim shall cry, Arise ye, and let us go up to Zion unto the Lord our God.
Jeremiah 50:5 They shall ask the way to Zion with their faces thitherward, saying, Come, and let us join ourselves to the Lord in a perpetual covenant that shall not be forgotten.
Jeremiah 50:28 The voice of them that flee and escape out of the land of Babylon, to declare in Zion the vengeance of the Lord our God, the vengeance of his temple.
Jeremiah 51:10 The Lord hath brought forth our righteousness: come, and let us declare in Zion the work of the Lord our God.
Jeremiah 51:24 And I will render unto Babylon and to all the inhabitants of Chaldea all their evil that they have done in Zion in your sight, saith the Lord.
Jeremiah 51:35 The violence done to me and to my flesh be upon Babylon, shall the inhabitant of Zion say; and my blood upon the inhabitants of Chaldea, shall Jerusalem say.
Lamentations 1:4 The ways of Zion do mourn, because none come to the solemn feasts: all her gates are desolate: her priests sigh, her virgins are afflicted, and she is in bitterness.
Lamentations 1:6 And from the daughter of Zion all her beauty is departed: her princes are become like harts that find no pasture, and they are gone without strength before the pursuer.
Lamentations 1:17 Zion spreadeth forth her hands, and there is none to comfort her: the Lord hath commanded concerning Jacob, that his adversaries should be round about him: Jerusalem is as a menstruous woman among them.
Lamentations 2:1 How hath the Lord covered the daughter of Zion with a cloud in his anger, and cast down from heaven unto the earth the beauty of Israel, and remembered not his footstool in the day of his anger!
Lamentations 2:10 The elders of the daughter of Zion sit upon the ground, and keep silence: they have cast up dust upon their heads; they have girded themselves with sackcloth: the virgins of Jerusalem hang down their heads to the ground.
Joel 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the Lord hath said, and in the remnant whom the Lord shall call.
Obadiah 1:17 But upon mount Zion shall be deliverance, and there shall be holiness; and the house of Jacob shall possess their possessions.
Obadiah 1:21 And saviours shall come up on mount Zion to judge the mount of Esau; and the kingdom shall be the Lord's.
Micah 3:10 They build up Zion with blood, and Jerusalem with iniquity.
Micah 3:12 Therefore shall Zion for your sake be plowed as a field, and Jerusalem shall become heaps, and the mountain of the house as the high places of the forest.
Micah 4:7 And I will make her that halted a remnant, and her that was cast far off a strong nation: and the Lord shall reign over them in mount Zion from henceforth, even for ever.
Zechariah 1:14 So the angel that communed with me said unto me, Cry thou, saying, Thus saith the Lord of hosts; I am jealous for Jerusalem and for Zion with a great jealousy.
Zechariah 8:2 Thus saith the Lord of hosts; I was jealous for Zion with great jealousy, and I was jealous for her with great fury.

1 Nephi 13:37 And blessed are they who shall seek to bring forth my Zion at that day, for they shall have the gift and the power of the Holy Ghost; and if they endure unto the end they shall be lifted up at the last day, and shall be saved in the everlasting kingdom of the Lamb; and whoso shall publish peace, yea, tidings of great joy, how beautiful upon the mountains shall they be.
1 Nephi 21:14 But, behold, Zion hath said: The Lord hath forsaken me, and my Lord hath forgotten me--but he will show that he hath not.
1 Nephi 22:14 And every nation which shall war against thee, O house of Israel, shall be turned one against another, and they shall fall into the pit which they digged to ensnare the people of the Lord. And all that fight against Zion shall be destroyed, and that great whore, who hath perverted the right ways of the Lord, yea, that great and abominable church, shall tumble to the dust and great shall be the fall of it.
1 Nephi 22:19 For behold, the righteous shall not perish; for the time surely must come that all they who fight against Zion shall be cut off.
2 Nephi 6:13 Wherefore, they that fight against Zion and the covenant people of the Lord shall lick up the dust of their feet; and the people of the Lord shall not be ashamed. For the people of the Lord are they who wait for him; for they still wait for the coming of the Messiah.
2 Nephi 10:13 And he that fighteth against Zion shall perish, saith God.
2 Nephi 12:3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths; for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.
2 Nephi 13:16 Moreover, the Lord saith: Because the daughters of Zion are haughty, and walk with stretched-forth necks and wanton eyes, walking and mincing as they go, and making a tinkling with their feet--
2 Nephi 14:3 And it shall come to pass, they that are left in Zion and remain in Jerusalem shall be called holy, every one that is written among the living in Jerusalem--
2 Nephi 14:5 And the Lord will create upon every dwelling-place of mount Zion, and upon her assemblies, a cloud and smoke by day and the shining of a flaming fire by night; for upon all the glory of Zion shall be a defence.
2 Nephi 20:12 Wherefore it shall come to pass that when the Lord hath performed his whole work upon Mount Zion and upon Jerusalem, I will punish the fruit of the stout heart of the king of Assyria, and the glory of his high looks.
2 Nephi 26:30 Behold, the Lord hath forbidden this thing; wherefore, the Lord God hath given a commandment that all men should have charity, which charity is love. And except they should have charity they were nothing. Wherefore, if they should have charity they would not suffer the laborer in Zion to perish.
2 Nephi 26:31 But the laborer in Zion shall labor for Zion; for if they labor for money they shall perish.
2 Nephi 28:21 And others will he pacify, and lull them away into carnal security, that they will say: All is well in Zion; yea, Zion prospereth, all is well--and thus the devil cheateth their souls, and leadeth them away carefully down to hell.

Doctrine and Covenants 21:7 For thus saith the Lord God: Him have I inspired to move the cause of Zion in mighty power for good, and his diligence I know, and his prayers I have heard.
Doctrine and Covenants 21:8 Yea, his weeping for Zion I have seen, and I will cause that he shall mourn for her no longer; for his days of rejoicing are come unto the remission of his sins, and the manifestations of my blessings upon his works.
Doctrine and Covenants 28:9 And now, behold, I say unto you that it is not revealed, and no man knoweth where the city Zion shall be built, but it shall be given hereafter. Behold, I say unto you that it shall be on the borders by the Lamanites.
Doctrine and Covenants 35:24 Keep all the commandments and covenants by which ye are bound; and I will cause the heavens to shake for your good, and Satan shall tremble and Zion shall rejoice upon the hills and flourish;
Doctrine and Covenants 38:4 I am the same which have taken the Zion of Enoch into mine own bosom; and verily, I say, even as many as have believed in my name, for I am Christ, and in mine own name, by the virtue of the blood which I have spilt, have I pleaded before the Father for them.
Doctrine and Covenants 45:68 And it shall come to pass among the wicked, that every man that will not take his sword against his neighbor must needs flee unto Zion for safety.
Doctrine and Covenants 45:70 And it shall be said among the wicked: Let us not go up to battle against Zion, for the inhabitants of Zion are terrible; wherefore we cannot stand.
Doctrine and Covenants 49:25 Zion shall flourish upon the hills and rejoice upon the mountains, and shall be assembled together unto the place which I have appointed.
Doctrine and Covenants 58:7 And also that you might be honored in laying the foundation, and in bearing record of the land upon which the Zion of God shall stand;
Doctrine and Covenants 61:16 And it shall be said in days to come that none is able to go up to the land of Zion upon the waters, but he that is upright in heart.
Doctrine and Covenants 63:29 Wherefore, the land of Zion shall not be obtained but by purchase or by blood, otherwise there is none inheritance for you.
Doctrine and Covenants 63:48 He that sendeth up treasures unto the land of Zion shall receive an inheritance in this world, and his works shall follow him, and also a reward in the world to come.
Doctrine and Covenants 64:34 Behold, the Lord requireth the heart and a willing mind; and the willing and obedient shall eat the good of the land of Zion in these last days.
Doctrine and Covenants 64:38 For it shall come to pass that the inhabitants of Zion shall judge all things pertaining to Zion.
Doctrine and Covenants 64:41 For, behold, I say unto you that Zion shall flourish, and the glory of the Lord shall be upon her;
Doctrine and Covenants 66:6 Tarry not many days in this place; go not up unto the land of Zion as yet; but inasmuch as you can send, send; otherwise, think not of thy property.
Doctrine and Covenants 66:11 Keep these sayings, for they are true and faithful; and thou shalt magnify thine office, and push many people to Zion with songs of everlasting joy upon their heads.
Doctrine and Covenants 68:29 And the inhabitants of Zion shall also observe the Sabbath day to keep it holy.
Doctrine and Covenants 68:30 And the inhabitants of Zion also shall remember their labors, inasmuch as they are appointed to labor, in all faithfulness; for the idler shall be had in remembrance before the Lord.
Doctrine and Covenants 69:6 For the land of Zion shall be a seat and a place to receive and do all these things.
Doctrine and Covenants 72:15 Thus it cometh out of the church, for according to the law every man that cometh up to Zion must lay all things before the bishop in Zion.
Doctrine and Covenants 72:26 Otherwise he who shall go up unto the land of Zion shall not be accounted as a wise steward. This is also an ensample. Amen.
Doctrine and Covenants 82:12 To manage the affairs of the poor, and all things pertaining to the bishopric both in the land of Zion and in the land of Kirtland;
Doctrine and Covenants 82:14 For Zion must increase in beauty, and in holiness; her borders must be enlarged; her stakes must be strengthened; yea, verily I say unto you, Zion must arise and put on her beautiful garments.
Doctrine and Covenants 84:32 And the sons of Moses and of Aaron shall be filled with the glory of the Lord, upon Mount Zion in the Lord's house, whose sons are ye; and also many whom I have called and sent forth to build up my church.
Doctrine and Covenants 84:76 But, verily I say unto all those to whom the kingdom has been given--from you it must be preached unto them, that they shall repent of their former evil works; for they are to be upbraided for their evil hearts of unbelief, and your brethren in Zion for their rebellion against you at the time I sent you.
Doctrine and Covenants 84:100 The Lord hath redeemed his people;And Satan is bound and time is no longer.The Lord hath gathered all things in one.The Lord hath brought down Zion from above.The Lord hath brought up Zion from beneath.
Doctrine and Covenants 90:32 And behold, verily I say unto you, that ye shall write this commandment, and say unto your brethren in Zion, in love greeting, that I have called you also to preside over Zion in mine own due time.
Doctrine and Covenants 90:34 Behold, I say unto you that your brethren in Zion begin to repent, and the angels rejoice over them.
Doctrine and Covenants 96:1 Behold, I say unto you, here is wisdom, whereby ye may know how to act concerning this matter, for it is expedient in me that this stake that I have set for the strength of Zion should be made strong.
Doctrine and Covenants 97:4 And inasmuch as he continueth to abide in me he shall continue to preside over the school in the land of Zion until I shall give unto him other commandments.
Doctrine and Covenants 97:18 And, now, behold, if Zion do these things she shall prosper, and spread herself and become very glorious, very great, and very terrible.
Doctrine and Covenants 97:19 And the nations of the earth shall honor her, and shall say: Surely Zion is the city of our God, and surely Zion cannot fall, neither be moved out of her place, for God is there, and the hand of the Lord is there;
Doctrine and Covenants 97:21 Therefore, verily, thus saith the Lord, let Zion rejoice, for this is Zion--the pure in heart; therefore, let Zion rejoice, while all the wicked shall mourn.
Doctrine and Covenants 97:25 Nevertheless, Zion shall escape if she observe to do all things whatsoever I have commanded her.
Doctrine and Covenants 100:13 And now I give unto you a word concerning Zion. Zion shall be redeemed, although she is chastened for a little season.
Doctrine and Covenants 101:17 Zion shall not be moved out of her place, notwithstanding her children are scattered.
Doctrine and Covenants 103:15 Behold, I say unto you, the redemption of Zion must needs come by power;
Doctrine and Covenants 103:18 And as your fathers were led at the first, even so shall the redemption of Zion be.
Doctrine and Covenants 103:34 But verily I say unto you, a commandment I give unto you, that ye shall not go up unto the land of Zion until you have obtained a hundred of the strength of my house, to go up with you unto the land of Zion.
Doctrine and Covenants 103:35 Therefore, as I said unto you, ask and ye shall receive; pray earnestly that peradventure my servant Joseph Smith, Jun., may go with you, and preside in the midst of my people, and organize my kingdom upon the consecrated land, and establish the children of Zion upon the laws and commandments which have been and which shall be given unto you.
Doctrine and Covenants 105:5 And Zion cannot be built up unless it is by the principles of the law of the celestial kingdom; otherwise I cannot receive her unto myself.
Doctrine and Covenants 105:32 That the kingdoms of this world may be constrained to acknowledge that the kingdom of Zion is in very deed the kingdom of our God and his Christ; therefore, let us become subject unto her laws.
Doctrine and Covenants 105:34 And let those commandments which I have given concerning Zion and her law be executed and fulfilled, after her redemption.
Doctrine and Covenants 107:37 The high council in Zion form a quorum equal in authority in the affairs of the church, in all their decisions, to the councils of the Twelve at the stakes of Zion.
Doctrine and Covenants 107:74 Thus shall he be a judge, even a common judge among the inhabitants of Zion, or in a stake of Zion, or in any branch of the church where he shall be set apart unto this ministry, until the borders of Zion are enlarged and it becomes necessary to have other bishops or judges in Zion or elsewhere.
Doctrine and Covenants 109:51 But if they will not, make bare thine arm, O Lord, and redeem that which thou didst appoint a Zion unto thy people.
Doctrine and Covenants 109:59 We ask thee to appoint unto Zion other stakes besides this one which thou hast appointed, that the gathering of thy people may roll on in great power and majesty, that thy work may be cut short in righteousness.
Doctrine and Covenants 113:9 What are we to understand by Zion loosing herself from the bands of her neck; 2d verse?
Doctrine and Covenants 119:2 For the building of mine house, and for the laying of the foundation of Zion and for the priesthood, and for the debts of the Presidency of my Church.
Doctrine and Covenants 119:5 Verily I say unto you, it shall come to pass that all those who gather unto the land of Zion shall be tithed of their surplus properties, and shall observe this law, or they shall not be found worthy to abide among you.
Doctrine and Covenants 119:6 And I say unto you, if my people observe not this law, to keep it holy, and by this law sanctify the land of Zion unto me, that my statutes and my judgments may be kept thereon, that it may be most holy, behold, verily I say unto you, it shall not be a land of Zion unto you.
Doctrine and Covenants 133:9 And behold, and lo, this shall be their cry, and the voice of the Lord unto all people: Go ye forth unto the land of Zion, that the borders of my people may be enlarged, and that her stakes may be strengthened, and that Zion may go forth unto the regions round about.
Doctrine and Covenants 133:24 And the land of Jerusalem and the land of Zion shall be turned back into their own place, and the earth shall be like as it was in the days before it was divided.
Doctrine and Covenants 136:18 Zion shall be redeemed in mine own due time.

Moses 7:20 And it came to pass that Enoch talked with the Lord; and he said unto the Lord: Surely Zion shall dwell in safety forever. But the Lord said unto Enoch: Zion have I blessed, but the residue of the people have I cursed.
Moses 7:23 And after that Zion was taken up into heaven, Enoch beheld, and lo, all the nations of the earth were before him;
Moses 7:31 And thou hast taken Zion to thine own bosom, from all thy creations, from all eternity to all eternity; and naught but peace, justice, and truth is the habitation of thy throne; and mercy shall go before thy face and have no end; how is it thou canst weep?
Moses 7:47 And behold, Enoch saw the day of the coming of the Son of Man, even in the flesh; and his soul rejoiced, saying: The Righteous is lifted up, and the Lamb is slain from the foundation of the world; and through faith I am in the bosom of the Father, and behold, Zion is with me.
Moses 7:69 And Enoch and all his people walked with God, and he dwelt in the midst of Zion; and it came to pass that Zion was not, for God received it up into his own bosom; and from thence went forth the saying, Zion is Fled.
Articles of Faith 1:10 We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.

Finrock wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 4:24 pm Let's do it!

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D&C 1:38 What I the Lord have spoken, I have spoken, and I excuse not myself; and though the heavens and the earth pass away, my word shall not pass away, but shall all be fulfilled, whether by mine own voice or by the voice of my servants, it is the same.

Glad to see it simply says servants as I view the fab 15 as I would any other brother, that holds the Aaronic priesthood. Lunch is waiting so will continue me post upon my return.

High Spy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 5:50 pm

Finrock wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 4:24 pm Let's do it!

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38 What I the Lord have spoken, I have spoken, and I excuse not myself; and though the heavens and the earth pass away, my word shall not pass away, but shall all be fulfilled, whether by mine own voice or by the voice of my servants, it is the same.

Glad to see it simply says servants as I view the fab 15 as I would any other brother, that holds the Aaronic priesthood. Lunch is waiting so will continue me post upon my return.

Another confirmation that the heavens and earth shall pass away.

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Zion may be something that happens on a new earth far far away, but does that mean that it isn’t something to continue strive for as part of being perfect as our Father in heaven is perfect?

Not knowing what scriptures are legitimate greatly complicates things.

Compassion

The video above is one piece of the puzzle that points to my current location. March8miracle.org gives a brief summary of other pertinent details, that have also brought me here. The 2010 conclusion of a 2002 message was posted by The Wicker Man, and that was followed closely by a series of significant earthquakes. The first of which landed Moroni’s Instrument. Soon thereafter more WM posts revealed that the Angel Moroni was one of many fabrications. My mission here is clear at this point, but how it all comes together remains a mystery. The words in blue are from the scriptures.

endlessQuestions wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 4:29 pm 1 Nephi 13:37 And blessed are they who shall seek to bring forth my Zion at that day, for they shall have the gift and the power of the Holy Ghost; and if they endure unto the end they shall be lifted up at the last day, and shall be saved in the everlasting kingdom of the Lamb; and whoso shall publish peace, yea, tidings of great joy, how beautiful upon the mountains shall they be.

1 Nephi 21:14 But, behold, Zion hath said: The Lord hath forsaken me, and my Lord hath forgotten me--but he will show that he hath not.

These two sound like Moses journey to the promised land.

Oh well, things are in a holding pattern until mid-April.

Hopefully the Spirit speaks to The Wicker Man.

Or he may hit a Grand Slam without warning.

Pretty weak response considering the signs that have already been given.

God will respond how he sees fit. Heaven help us.

High Spy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:39 pm Zion may be something that happens on a new earth far far away, but does that mean that it isn’t something to continue strive for as part of being perfect as our Father in heaven is perfect?

Not knowing what scriptures are legitimate greatly complicates things.



The video above is one piece of the puzzle that points to my current location. March8miracle.org gives a brief summary of other pertinent details, that have also brought me here. The 2010 conclusion of a 2002 message was posted by The Wicker Man, and that was followed closely by a series of significant earthquakes. The first of which landed Moroni’s Instrument. Soon thereafter more WM posts revealed that the Angel Moroni was one of many fabrications. My mission here is clear at this point, but how it all comes together remains a mystery. The words in blue are from the scriptures.

The work we do must be the work of the Father. We do that no matter where we are or what time we exist in.

The point is to not lean on this creation. Don't think you're gonna save it. It's not our job to prevent everything from falling apart.

If God decides that I am to be poor or rich it makes no difference. Being poor or being rich still requires being obedient to Father.

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Zion can be had in part here. We don't need to abandon striving the right way for Zion here because if we establish anything as the Spirit directs it will be a paradise on Earth even if not the fullness of the glory possible in the New World and New Creation which I speculate will not have been created within the mystery of iniquity like this creation has been.

I speculate it's like God created a good house on a foundation of evil for the purpose of rescuing those who were trapped in the foundation but this state of affairs is temporary.

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The mystery of iniquity has to do with the impurity that exist in this very creation.

Job
25:4 How then can man be justified with God? or how can he be clean that is born of a woman?
25:5 Behold even to the moon, and it shineth not; yea, the stars are not pure in his sight.

Not only is this creation not pure the very house of God the New Jerusalem must be cleansed.

1 Peter
4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: ...

Don't believe anyone that says this is some brick and mortar structure on this earth. The house of God is the New Jerusalem that he made with his own hands that has been already.

Here is the start of judgement.
Revelation
12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

The Wicker Man wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:59 pm The mystery of iniquity has to do with the impurity that exist in this very creation.

Job
25:4 How then can man be justified with God? or how can he be clean that is born of a woman?
25:5 Behold even to the moon, and it shineth not; yea, the stars are not pure in his sight.

Not only is this creation not pure the very house of God the New Jerusalem must be cleansed.

1 Peter
4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: ...

Don't believe anyone that says this is some brick and mortar structure on this earth. The house of God is the New Jerusalem that he made with his own hands that has been already.

Here is the start of judgement.
Revelation
12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

How can the very house of God become impure so that a cleansing is required?

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Finrock wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 2:09 am

The Wicker Man wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:59 pm The mystery of iniquity has to do with the impurity that exist in this very creation.

Job
25:4 How then can man be justified with God? or how can he be clean that is born of a woman?
25:5 Behold even to the moon, and it shineth not; yea, the stars are not pure in his sight.

Not only is this creation not pure the very house of God the New Jerusalem must be cleansed.

1 Peter
4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: ...

Don't believe anyone that says this is some brick and mortar structure on this earth. The house of God is the New Jerusalem that he made with his own hands that has been already.

Here is the start of judgement.
Revelation
12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

How can the very house of God become impure so that a cleansing is required?

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I did not say the house of God structure was impure. Only that it needed cleansing.

Isaiah
66:17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.

Revelation
22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

The Wicker Man wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 6:04 am

Finrock wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 2:09 am

The Wicker Man wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:59 pm The mystery of iniquity has to do with the impurity that exist in this very creation.

Job
25:4 How then can man be justified with God? or how can he be clean that is born of a woman?
25:5 Behold even to the moon, and it shineth not; yea, the stars are not pure in his sight.

Not only is this creation not pure the very house of God the New Jerusalem must be cleansed.

1 Peter
4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: ...

Don't believe anyone that says this is some brick and mortar structure on this earth. The house of God is the New Jerusalem that he made with his own hands that has been already.

Here is the start of judgement.
Revelation
12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

How can the very house of God become impure so that a cleansing is required?

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I did not say the house of God structure was impure. Only that it needed cleansing.

Isaiah
66:17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.

Revelation
22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

How did impure things get inside the house?

By invitation? Or by sneaking in?

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The Wicker Man wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 6:04 am

Finrock wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 2:09 am

The Wicker Man wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:59 pm The mystery of iniquity has to do with the impurity that exist in this very creation.

Job
25:4 How then can man be justified with God? or how can he be clean that is born of a woman?
25:5 Behold even to the moon, and it shineth not; yea, the stars are not pure in his sight.

Not only is this creation not pure the very house of God the New Jerusalem must be cleansed.

1 Peter
4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: ...

Don't believe anyone that says this is some brick and mortar structure on this earth. The house of God is the New Jerusalem that he made with his own hands that has been already.

Here is the start of judgement.
Revelation
12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

How can the very house of God become impure so that a cleansing is required?

...

I did not say the house of God structure was impure. Only that it needed cleansing.

Isaiah
66:17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.

Revelation
22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

Isaiah 66:17 + Rev. 22:2

Trying to put those together.

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Finrock wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:27 pm

The Wicker Man wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 6:04 am

Finrock wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 2:09 am

How can the very house of God become impure so that a cleansing is required?

...

I did not say the house of God structure was impure. Only that it needed cleansing.

Isaiah
66:17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.

Revelation
22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

Isaiah 66:17 + Rev. 22:2

Trying to put those together.

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Isaiah 66 talks about God's house
Revelation talks about God's house

Isaiah 66 talks about abominations
Revelation talks about abominations

Isaiah 66 talks about evil doers
Revelation talks about evil doers

Isaiah talks about those that follow the LORD
Revelation talks about those that follow the LORD

Isaiah 66 talks about the LORD rendering recompen to his enemies
Revelation talks about the LORD's judgement upon his enemies

Isaiah 66 talks about the woman and the man child
Revelation talks about the woman and the man child

Isaiah 66 talks about the new heavens and new earth
Revelation talks about the new heavens and new earth

Isaiah 66 talks about a tree in the midst
Revelation talks of a tree in the midst