Some Achievable Public Good

[OpenAeye]

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[BeNotDeceived]

Re: The Duty To Create A New World Civilization.
https://ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=78836

The Original LDS Church Mission
Was To Create A New World Religion
And A New World Civilization.
But everything stopped after achieving a first-level Zion
for just a few people in Utah.


Abstract
The title of this article describes the mission which Joseph Smith gladly accepted and worked vigorously to accomplish. Many of his early followers accepted the same mission, but they were followed by men who sought ease and convenience, not worldwide religious accomplishments – as the Scriptures require of those who wish to claim leadership roles. Building up Zion – the centerpiece of our 10th Article of Faith – was a real and present reality for Joseph Smith, but for these new leaders, it was nothing but a vague will-o'-the-wisp, no more achievable than flying to Kolob. All of that kind of righteous ambition was troublesome to the leaders, and it had to be eventually rinsed out of member thinking and drained away until we are as passive and bland as possible. That is where we are today.

After nearly 130 years of wasted time, with enormous mistakes made and opportunities lost, we need to switch into high gear to attempt to repent and catch up to where we should have been. One technique to get us back in the game at the right level might be to have the top church Quorum of the 15 each accept the responsibility to find and apply $1 trillion to furthering Christian goals within our national society. Conveniently, President Trump has received pledges for at least $15 trillion to be invested in America. Getting deeply involved in that process could be a good start on building up Zion on the American continent. Well over 100 projects are included in this non-exhaustive list, making plans for at least $15 trillion in new investments to be made in the United States.

"TRUMP EFFECT: A Running List of New U.S. Investment in President Trump’s Second Term"
https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/202 ... cond-term/

Describing world civilizations
Samuel P. Huntington, in his 1996 book The Clash of Civilizations: Remaking of World Order, lists nine post-1990 world civilizations on his map of the world: Western, Latin American, African, Islamic, Sinic, Hindu, Orthodox, Buddhists, and Japanese. Actually, for my purposes here, three of these groupings – Western, Latin American, and Orthodox – are all considered part of Christianity, but are different enough from one another as civilizations to be treated separately. We should note that Christianity totals 2.2 billion adherents out of the world's 8.23 billion people. As Huntington explains,

Orthodox. Several scholars distinguish a separate Orthodox civilization, centered in Russia and separate from Western Christendom as a result of its Byzantine parentage, distinct religion, 200 years of Tartar rule, bureaucratic despotism, and limited exposure to the Renaissance, Reformation, Enlightenment, and other central Western experiences.
Western. Western civilization is usually dated as emerging about A.D. 700 or 800. It is generally viewed by scholars as having three major components, in Europe, North America, and Latin America.
Latin America. Latin American, however, has a distinct identity which differentiates it from the West. Although an offspring of European civilization, Latin America has evolved along a very different path from Europe and North America. It has had a corporatist, authoritarian culture, which Europe had to a much lesser degree and North America not at all.
Samuel P. Huntington, The Clash of Civilizations: Remaking of World Order (New York: Simon and Schuster, 1996), pp. 45-6.

The important thing to remember is that each of these civilizations is based on a particular kind of religion which has set the moral and legal underpinnings for each such civilization. Until the LDS church has built a new civilization based on the contents of all its old and new Scriptures, it cannot be considered a success. Just attaching itself to the remnants of what is left of Christ's original church does not begin to meet its responsibilities.

We are not now a world church, the basis for a world civilization
To be perfectly clear, claiming to have a few members scattered thinly around the world does not make the LDS church a world church. At most, we might call it a worldwide church, but it is merely being tolerated to widely varying degrees in all these scattered places. It is not on its home territory where it would be setting the pace for the cultures there. Unless it is constantly upgrading the various cultural institutions in all of these foreign places, then it is not establishing a new world religion which underlies a new world civilization.

What is the church's mission?
Without really understanding why, I have been fascinated by church mission statements all of my life, trying to get at the essence of church existence and activity. One famous version was something like "The threefold mission of the church is to proclaim the gospel, perfect the Saints, and redeem the dead." But notice that there actually is no measurable mission statement embedded in that compilation of activities. It is nothing more than a list of activities to be carried out, at some unspecified level of effort, with no measurable goals associated with it. A very low level of activity might be enough to check off each of those vague specifications, without the world being changed in the least. However, creating a new world civilization to compete on at least equal terms with any of the other nine world civilizations makes the whole process measurable. Of course, the final goal is not only to compete with all of those civilizations, but to engulf them. Today, that is not even a goal which is allowed to circulate in church media, let alone something taken seriously by church leadership.

What did Joseph Smith think about the church's mission?
Here is a hint at Joseph Smith's general philosophy about the relationship between the church and the world. His views are definitely macro, not micro; broad, not narrow:

I see no faults in the Church, and therefore let me be resurrected with the Saints, whether I ascend to heaven or descend to hell, or go to any other place. And if we go to hell, we will turn the devils out of doors and make a heaven of it. Where this people are, there is good society. What do we care where we are, if the society be good? I don't care what a man's character is; if he's my friend--a true friend, I will be a friend to him, and preach the Gospel of salvation to him, and give him good counsel, helping him out of his difficulties. (Joseph Smith, History Of The Church, 5:517 (1843))

Instead of having the world bring themselves up to our standards, we have assimilated down to theirs. In this situation, the words apostasy and assimilation mean about the same thing. Apparently, we do not even know what our standards are – we are driven with the wind and tossed. It appears easier and cheaper to go along with the mob, and so that is what we do.

Is Zion to be real or virtual?
Samuel D. Castor, an attorney and LDS religion teacher, has suggested that we can reach Zion within ourselves, no matter where we find ourselves, so that there is no need to have a real earthly Zion civilization. Of course, there is some truth to that assertion. Nonetheless, I believe there is a group-salvation element to the gospel of Christ, and we can never accomplish and enjoy all that Christ intended, unless we build a real and tangible Zion society of substantial size, one that is the basis for a complete world religion and world civilization. Such a civilization would have the physical and intellectual power to keep safe those within its boundaries, regardless of the numerous inevitable conflicts with outside civilizations.

Samuel D. Castor, Zion Rising: Your Personal Restoration And Awakening In Christ (Springville, Utah: Cedar Fort Incorporated, 2022). See https://www.zionrising.org/

It should be obvious that unless Zion can establish a safe place for living the full gospel, then it can never reach the most important goals of a heaven-inspired civilization. We should take note that the most recent state-level elections in November 2025 have installed a self-described Democratic Socialist as mayor of New York City. Based on his continual quoting of and support for Marxist ideas, including intending to "seize the means of production," many people would simply call him a communist. (To add intensity, he is also a Muslim jihadist.) The new governors in New Jersey and Virginia, while describing themselves as moderate Democrats, are considered by many people to be very politically radical, differing from the New York mayor on social issues by only a tiny bit.

The point I want to make here is that millions of people have already left New York and New Jersey for such places as Florida and Texas, simply because of the political climate they wish to live in. After the election, other large numbers of people, perhaps millions, are now likely to follow them in their movements from New York and New Jersey to so-called red states. The Republican states tend to have real respect for individual rights, while the signature feature of leftist governments is a lack of respect for individual rights, instead focusing almost exclusively on group or class rights. In a similar way, wherever Zion is established, even if it is only partially established, as in Florida and Texas, that is where freedom-loving people will flock. Putting that in religious terms is to call it the "gathering." Obviously, if large numbers of like-minded freedom-loving people are gathered together, they can take all practical and political steps to defend their own freedom, where, in contrast, if they remain in freedom-destroying Babylon, their personal rights are going to be greatly constrained.

Why are we not building Zion better through families?
Catherine Ruth Pakaluk, a Harvard-trained economist with an interest in the sociology of the family, and a married parent of 8 children herself, delivered an information-packed speech on October 29, 2025, at BYU, on the topic of "Why Children Became Useless: Faith and the Future of the Family." She discussed the declining number of marriages and declining number of children in the Western world, the problems it is causing, and what we might do about it. Simply valuing children for their own sakes is what is often missing, now that children are seen as merely an expense in cities rather than as valuable labor additions to farming families.

I assume she is a Catholic, not a Mormon, so she did not directly address the LDS church's policies concerning children and family finances. From my own studies, I conclude that the central church demand that families pay the central church 10% of their income means that the family's financial ability to raise children is decreased by two, and the church's failure to offer a much more inexpensive and efficient set of social insurance programs to replace the 15.3% government payroll tax for Social Security and Medicare means that the church's inaction decreases a family's ability to take on three more children. The "family church" which does nothing to alleviate the financial problems it causes, which leaves the typical family with five children less than it might otherwise have, is not much of a family church.

If the LDS church were actually welcoming children onto the Earth according to "The Great Plan of Happiness," we would surely have many programs operating to welcome all children, and make their lives here as pleasant and productive as possible. That might include adoption systems, foster childcare systems, orphanage systems, systems to lessen abortions, etc. However, the church appears to be doing absolutely none of those things, having outsourced it all to nonreligious or anti-religious civil governments along with all other typical Christian-based charitable activities. It may seem very clever to get someone else to pay for these social systems, but, certainly, no one can say that the church is focused on building up Zion, if all it is doing is possibly saving itself a few dollars by avoiding vital services and related priceless teaching opportunities. Other societies have found creative ways to encourage and support women to marry and have numerous children. Surely we can do at least as well ourselves.

Is it pre-millennial or post-millennial?
Now would be a good time to settle once and for all the doctrinal questions presented by the two ways of viewing the future of the Earth, one assuming the pre-millennial second coming of Christ and the other assuming the post-millennial second coming of Christ. I am most interested in the questions of human responsibility and opportunity contained within each assumption.

The pre-millennial assumption is naturally the easiest. Its assumptions fit in very nicely with the Protestant idea that if a person merely says that he believes, then Christ will do absolutely everything else which is required to deliver that person's salvation (even if that salvation tops out at the terrestrial kingdom and requires no ordinances or church affiliation). If we accept that pre-millennial viewpoint, then humans have no effect on when Christ might come for the second time, and when he does come, without any effort on the part of his Christian followers, supposedly he will remove all of the wicked from the earth so that the few remaining righteous can enjoy the Earth unimpeded for 1000 years. The big risk I see from that viewpoint is that Christ might decide to apply some very high standards as far as who he might consider righteous enough to remain, which could mean that almost all of humanity might be obliterated at his coming, making the Millennium a barren and sad time.

The post-millennial assumption is far more complicated for humans. It assumes that humans will take the full gospel which has been delivered to them and vigorously apply it to themselves and everyone else, so that the quality of life on earth is gradually raised to a Zion or Millennial condition. Only then, having seen the gospel operate with its full effect on humanity, will Christ come to accept this elevated civilization as his own, presumably going on to add some finishing touches.

This post-millennial assumption puts enormous responsibilities on humans, and especially on their priesthood leaders, to make remarkable strides in improving human life, first in the United States, and then in the world. If this post-millennial assumption is actually part of the calendar of heaven, then the LDS church and its members and leaders are in big trouble at this point in time. The church leadership has taken great pains to make sure that the church as an organization has done as little as possible to improve its own internal social parameters, as well as the social parameters of all other nations on earth, and our efforts in that direction are constantly declining. We have had about 130 years to expand the reality of a Zion society from the state of Utah to other places in the world, but none of that has happened.

But neither has the second coming occurred. By one scriptural calculation, the millennial period should have begun in the year 2000 A.D., but nothing happened. Does that mean that the LDS church failed to accomplish its assignment to bring us up to a Millennial condition? Or does it simply mean that Christ really wants to keep us guessing about when he will make his second appearance?

There is another possibility that might cause us to worry. What if we really were supposed to be working hard for 130 years to achieve a Zion/Millennial societal condition, and we failed to do so, so Christ himself has canceled the Millennium, and our generations and dispensation will never see such a thing. Perhaps, as in Fourth Nephi, the Christians will once again be destroyed and the Earth will return to barbarism. Perhaps the end of the earth will occur when a sullied Earth is cleansed of all wickedness, and perhaps all humanity, by fire, and it can then become a place for only righteous resurrected beings to inhabit. Perhaps our particular Earth does not deserve or need 1000 years of Millennial happiness.

It is true that the hints and prophecies we have about the future of the Earth are rather vague, but perhaps we should take from that vagueness the idea that we are not justified in only clinging to the prophecies which sound good and convenient to us, and ignore all the other prophecies which go in quite a different direction. What if we need to plan for the worst? In that case, we need to very markedly change our ways.

The church today seems to assume that it can keep its $100 billion treasure forever. They have said it was to be used at the Second Coming, and that Second Coming may never happen. That might include the assumption that there will never be any such special condition as the Millennium, or any disruptive Second Coming, and so the church could go on as it is indefinitely at least until the heavens have had enough of our laziness and errors.




Gathering Israel Aggressively
– 8 million per year

Gaining members and saving the society are two sides of the same coin.


We often hear the LDS church leaders talking about the importance of "gathering Israel." However, their actual plans and actions for doing so are always extremely weak. The members are admonished to be better missionaries, and that is about the end of it. I want to offer a picture of what "gathering Israel" might look like in today's context if anyone was ever really serious about it. If they were adding about 8 million new members a year, then I would finally believe that they were serious. The central offices should bear far more responsibility for such results than the regular members, who would surely be berated and restrained if they started getting really creative and aggressive in their personal missionary work.

The main difficulty the LDS church faces today is that the gospel it is teaching and exhibiting is only about 5% of the gospel formulation which Joseph Smith restored to the Earth, which was a fairly accurate representation of Christ's original church. It takes an entire book to describe the missing 95%, but if only the "building up Zion" section were rejuvenated, then we could have something which looks like my chart below. Of course, attempting to re-instigate just a small percentage of the real gospel, without bringing in the whole of it, would probably result in an overall failure. In fact, it might do more harm than good. At least, with the church being small today, the amount of damage we can do to the world is also small.

The unremitting pattern of the gospel on the Earth is that about 200 years after it is restored, and a few generations having passed, most of the important parts of the gospel have been lost and misunderstood, and that entire society implodes and relapses back to the preceding barbarism. We are on course today to follow that exact pattern for the umpteenth time. If there are church members and church leaders who would like to finally break that iron law of dissolution, now is the time to act. Today's central church organization is a determined impediment to solving this eternal problem. That, of course, makes the solution many times harder than it would otherwise need to be.

Perhaps our whole generation of church members and leaders should have engraved on their headstones "He watched while the world disintegrated and did nothing about it." Maybe there are a few people who will decide to object in advance to such an epitaph, and also decide to take some action.


Some Ideas For Building Up Zion
Costs To Acquire New Members, Based On New Church-Sponsored Programs

Possible cost for new members, Concept, Details, Evaluation

1. Free (no extra monetary investment required)

Concept: Meet the needs of 70 million MAGA voters (really about 150 MAGA people including their children.)

Details: Become a "constitutional church." Teach and practice correct morality in politics.
End mandatory tithing, and either replace it with real New Testament charity or provide stunning practical value for money paid into a church system for social insurance services, thus allowing members to have more money left over for raising families and for real charity.
Estimate at least 2 million new members a year until about 200 million is reached.

Evaluation: A powerful move toward building Zion on the American continent. Become the true basis for a new world religion.

Gradually add 200 million church members at no extra cost. However, other projects, such as those listed below, where money is expended in a good cause, will be useful to convince the MAGA people that the church has the correct ideology and plans.

It probably requires a major headquarters overhaul, replacing today's abundance of political leftists with true freedom-lovers and gospel-lovers. Members may have to reestablish control over central headquarters to accomplish this. Or an alternate headquarters may need to be established.

2. $3,000 each

Concept: Build new industrial cities

Details: Create cities of up to 1 million people designed as "company towns," in the sense that they are built around factories and other manufacturing processes. It might take up to five years to create such a new city, so that we could expect the addition of 200,000 members for each year for each city in progress. Building five cities at once would thus give us 1 million new members per year.
This concept both takes advantage of the freedom in the United States, and also works very aggressively to expand that freedom and political stability, including rule of law.
Presumably, this could not be done outside the United States, there being too much political risk to making such large investments.

Evaluation: Use other people's money for most development costs (about $25 billion per city), and only pay for necessary church facilities.
Paying $3 billion for chapels for 1 million new members equals $3,000 each.
– Process is slow but cheap
– Fulfill prophecy by helping Lamanites
– Also bring great prosperity to the United States as it becomes more self-contained. These are benefits that go far beyond the cost per member. Bring in good people out of ghettos, national and international.

3. $5,000 each

Concept: Adoption/abortion services

Details: Up to 1 million per year at a cost of $5,000 each (guess). Assume large amounts of volunteer labor can be applied to this project.

Evaluation: Actually DO the minimum for claiming to be a "family church."

4. $8,000 each

Concept: K-12 education

Details: Use inexpensive laptops by the millions
– Teach English and provide access to all human knowledge – Use Starlink in some remote cases.
– set up many private schools
– mostly paid by parents, governments and other donors
– Total cost = 10 years times 8000 equals $80,000 (per child)
– But the central church only fills in the gaps for welfare cases, perhaps $8,000 per year for 10% of kids

Evaluation: Actually control the information and ideology taught.

5. $10,000 each

Concept: College education

Details: Spend $10 million for each of 1000 schools ($10 billion total cost) which will handle 5000 students each for a total of 5 million students at any one time. Assume 1 million students become church members each year. Children are added at no extra cost as graduates marry and have families.
This sounds like one of the church's current approved projects, just much larger. Expensive, but good long-term results. The church can't really continue to function without this option running to some extent.
Assume large amounts of volunteer labor can be applied to this project.

Evaluation: Expensive, but very quick and voluminous results. Can be applied worldwide without regard for country boundaries. However, there is substantial political risk in doing things outside the United States, so investment in physical plant should be kept small in these other places.

6. No net cost

Concept: Set up huge social insurance system for every kind of personal insurance, including marriage insurance for women.

Details: Use with MAGA people to give great financial value. Anyone in the world could theoretically benefit from this, operating as a powerful gathering force to bring the best people to a free and prosperous United States. Could itself add 1 million members each year.

Evaluation: Get the same effect as government and commercial social insurance offerings offerings for about one-third the cost. Use "just in time" computer systems to end nearly all waste, fraud, and abuse. Includes automatic internal auditing.

7. No net cost

Concept: Create major movies and other entertainment and education for a new Christian society

Details: Many movies cost well over $100 million to produce, but, if well done, return a profit.

Evaluation: Use to help win the ideological battle with Satan's minions.

Canadian Dude@DiscussMormonism.com wisely wished for Some Achievable Public Good and that was adopted as an expression appropriate for expansion of spy Purple Circle revaluations and endeavors.

[Finrock]

Don't believe anyone that says this is some brick and mortar structure on this earth. The house of God is the New Jerusalem that he made with his own hands that has been already.

[is man]

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SlogWart’s

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/t4Dl1QqwSkw

+00:00:00 This startup just worked out how to weave robotic parts rather than bolting them together. And it means that they can cut production times from weeks to just minutes. Most advanced robotics are assembled from hundreds of tiny parts, a bottleneck that makes robots slow to build, expensive to customize, and hard to scale. However, a Hungarian US robotics startup company called Alonic is threading a different path. Their 3D tissue braiding method lets them make lightweight structural cores, effectively the robot's bones, and

00:00:24
automate a braiding method to weave multiple materials with different properties together around this core in a single continuous process. Rather than connecting sections of bone together with mechanical hinges, the team uses high strength structural fibers to provide loadbearing joint stiffness. The team also creates built-in tendons using high tensile cables directly integrated into the structure during fabrication. These tendons can be contracted by motors located deeper in the structure. By adjusting the braid angle and using

00:00:50
elastic fibers, they can control the degrees of freedom and angle that the joint can move through, recreating how human tissue supports and limits motion in our own joints. They can also include things like pressure sensors or conductive elements to allow sensing and signal transmission through the part of the body itself. As a result, they produce a single integrated structure strong where it needs to be and flexible where it should be with no assembly or tiny screws required. This is important

00:01:13
because if robots going to leave the factory floor anytime soon and work along us, we need bodies that are cheap, adaptable, and easy to make, not handbuilt relics of an industrial era. If you like science and just realize that AI is now literally pulling the strings, follow for

viewtopic.php?p=5760&hilit=Braiding+elastic#p5760
Re: Some Achievable Public Good

Building posts topdown E I E O ++

[OpenAeye]

Here’s a cleaned-up, top-down phpBB-ready version that keeps every URL exactly and tightens the “E I E O” framing, while also correcting the company name to Allonic (with sources) and adding a quick “why it matters” punch. 

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phpBB post (drop-in)

E — Achievable Public Good angle: if you can “weave” robot bodies like textiles, you can potentially unlock cheap, adaptable, human-safe robotics that’s actually scalable outside the lab.

I — The claim in the short: instead of assembling hundreds of parts with screws + hinges, a startup is weaving multi-material structures in a single continuous process—cutting build time from weeks to minutes.

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/t4Dl1QqwSkw


E — Who it appears to be: the company name in the narration is Allonic (Budapest-based; “3D Tissue Braiding”). Their own site describes “3D Tissue Braiding” as a process that braids/“grows” soft tissues around a scaffold to form monolithic robotic bodies. 
A trade writeup (Formnext 2025) describes the same flow: 3D-printed “bones” + automated weaving of fibers to integrate reinforcement, routing/guides, elastics, and sensing/wiring. 

I — Mechanism highlights (as stated):

• []3D print a minimal rigid scaffold (“bones”)
  []Automated braiding/weaving of structural fibers around the scaffold
  []Integrated “tendons” (high-tensile cables) and multi-material properties via braid angle + elastics
  []Potentially embed sensing / conductive paths in the body itself

+Transcript (as captured)+00:00:00 This startup just worked out how to weave robotic parts rather than bolting them together. And it means that they can cut production times from weeks to just minutes. Most advanced robotics are assembled from hundreds of tiny parts, a bottleneck that makes robots slow to build, expensive to customize, and hard to scale. However, a Hungarian US robotics startup company called Alonic is threading a different path. Their 3D tissue braiding method lets them make lightweight structural cores, effectively the robot’s bones, and

00:00:24
automate a braiding method to weave multiple materials with different properties together around this core in a single continuous process. Rather than connecting sections of bone together with mechanical hinges, the team uses high strength structural fibers to provide loadbearing joint stiffness. The team also creates built-in tendons using high tensile cables directly integrated into the structure during fabrication. These tendons can be contracted by motors located deeper in the structure. By adjusting the braid angle and using

00:00:50
elastic fibers, they can control the degrees of freedom and angle that the joint can move through, recreating how human tissue supports and limits motion in our own joints. They can also include things like pressure sensors or conductive elements to allow sensing and signal transmission through the part of the body itself. As a result, they produce a single integrated structure strong where it needs to be and flexible where it should be with no assembly or tiny screws required. This is important

00:01:13
because if robots going to leave the factory floor anytime soon and work along us, we need bodies that are cheap, adaptable, and easy to make, not handbuilt relics of an industrial era. If you like science and just realize that AI is now literally pulling the strings, follow for

O — Open thread question: if “woven bodies” make compliant robots cheaper + faster, what’s the first public-good deployment that matters most?

• []eldercare / assistive devices?
  []disaster response manipulators?
  []ag / food handling where soft touch matters?
  []low-cost prosthetics ecosystems?

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Notes (non-post)
• If you want one extra “credibility line” inside the post, the cleanest is: “Allonic was a Formnext Awards 2025 Startup finalist (per VoxelMatters).” 
• If you want me to tighten it further into a single-screen post (no bullets, just 6–10 lines), say so and I’ll compress without losing the URLs.

[CQ]

Here’s a 7-question quiz based on Grand Junction and Gravity Wizards.

Quiz
1. What 6 letters are in both Grand Junction and Gravity Wizards?
2. Which letters are in Grand Junction but not in Gravity Wizards?
3. Which letters are in Gravity Wizards but not in Grand Junction?
4. How many distinct letters are in one phrase but not both?
5. Which of these words can be made from the letters common to both?
GRAD, GRID, JOG, WAND
6. Which of these letters is not in either phrase?
x, y, c, j
7. True or false: J is a letter shared by both phrases.

++ Answer key

1. a, d, g, i, r, t
2. c, j, n, o, u
3. s, v, w, y, z
4. 10
5. GRAD, GRID
6. x
7. False

I can also turn it into a multiple-choice worksheet or a harder 7-question version.

[BeNotDeceived]

++ Spoiler courtesy of zBrave Browser

The river formerly known as the Grand River in the United States is now officially called the Colorado River, a name adopted by Congress in 1921.
Predominantly plodding along this waterway describes the Colorado River, which flows 1,450 miles from the Continental Divide in Colorado to the Gulf of California in Mexico.
Former Name: The upper portion of the river was originally called the Grand River before the name change.
Renaming: U.S. Representative Edward T. Taylor successfully petitioned Congress to rename the entire waterway to the Colorado River in 1921.
Route: It passes through seven states (Arizona, California, Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada, Utah, Wyoming) and two nations (USA and Mexico).
Character: The river is known for carving through iconic landscapes like the Grand Canyon and providing water to over 36 million people.

Re: HOPE for 2026!!
https://ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.p ... 3#p1616813

I want to continue this thread. 2026 needs this, with much desperateness. If you live in a relatively safe to drive location (NOT UTAH!) of drivers I highly recommend investing in a motorcycle. It's a great thrill to behold. Test ride a 2 wheeled machine that you find most comfortable in. This is to say don't get carried away as to much ego and lack of awareness can land you in the hospital.

Why am I recommending motorcycles?

I can't explain. It's an experience that is incredibly therapeutic. You gain a sense of intimacy with the road you can have with with a car. Just turn off the music and listen to what the exhaust note telling combined with what you feel in the handle bars.

Spy prolly prefers power-assisted pedal power, predominantly plodding alongside the river formerly known as the Grand River, with the maker space as a primary destination while carrying forward spy dastardly diabolical plan to propel FOBBs^TM along trajectories best estimated through accurate understanding and application of the laws of physics.

[Finrock]

++ Spoiler courtesy of zBrave Browser

The river formerly known as the Grand River in the United States is now officially called the Colorado River, a name adopted by Congress in 1921.
Predominantly plodding along this waterway describes the Colorado River, which flows 1,450 miles from the Continental Divide in Colorado to the Gulf of California in Mexico.
Former Name: The upper portion of the river was originally called the Grand River before the name change.
Renaming: U.S. Representative Edward T. Taylor successfully petitioned Congress to rename the entire waterway to the Colorado River in 1921.
Route: It passes through seven states (Arizona, California, Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada, Utah, Wyoming) and two nations (USA and Mexico).
Character: The river is known for carving through iconic landscapes like the Grand Canyon and providing water to over 36 million people.

Re: HOPE for 2026!!
https://ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.p ... 3#p1616813

I want to continue this thread. 2026 needs this, with much desperateness. If you live in a relatively safe to drive location (NOT UTAH!) of drivers I highly recommend investing in a motorcycle. It's a great thrill to behold. Test ride a 2 wheeled machine that you find most comfortable in. This is to say don't get carried away as to much ego and lack of awareness can land you in the hospital.

Why am I recommending motorcycles?

I can't explain. It's an experience that is incredibly therapeutic. You gain a sense of intimacy with the road you can have with with a car. Just turn off the music and listen to what the exhaust note telling combined with what you feel in the handle bars.

Spy prolly prefers power-assisted pedal power, predominantly plodding alongside the river formerly known as the Grand River, with the maker space as a primary destination while carrying forward spy dastardly diabolical plan to propel FOBBs^TM along trajectories best estimated through accurate understanding and application of the laws of physics.

Coincidentally yesterday as I was driving in town I witnessed a man on the road next to his scooter being assisted by two ladies who were performing first aid as he was having a zeisure. I prayed that he would be okay.

[BeNotDeceived]

Re: The Inalienable and Fundamental Rights
https://ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.p ... 6#p1641606

The purple circle is currently paused pending a new place to proceed.

explain, please

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Re: The Judgment Bar of God
https://ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.p ... 2#p1643802

What if Jesus Team Jesus returns engages, not as a messiah, but as a lowly community organizer. Would many Christians, including Mormons, even care about him then? I think you make a good point about not recognizing Jesus. However, all of Christianity makes assumptions about Jesus that are not necessarily going to happen as we think.

Now you’re catching on.